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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2022, 07:57:24 AM »
Full length size. .002 shoulder bump. Quality dies will keep everything concentric the first go around. Blue box brass and yellow box bullets for .1ís accuracy.
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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2022, 08:54:48 AM »
Full length size. .002 shoulder bump. Quality dies will keep everything concentric the first go around. Blue box brass and yellow box bullets for .1ís accuracy.
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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2022, 08:58:05 AM »
Full length size. .002 shoulder bump. Quality dies will keep everything concentric the first go around. Blue box brass and yellow box bullets for .1ís accuracy.
:yeah:

Fullsize, lapua, berger, money !
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Neck sizing only is a thing of the past.

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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2022, 09:21:14 AM »
Full length size. .002 shoulder bump. Quality dies will keep everything concentric the first go around. Blue box brass and yellow box bullets for .1ís accuracy.
:yeah:

Fullsize, lapua, berger, money !
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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2022, 09:25:13 AM »
I wouldn't say neck sizing is a thing of the past at all. I've been reloading for 40 years, but only in the last five years have I been neck sizing. I do it for two rifles- my daughter's 7mm-08 and my 338 Win. Mag.

Getting great accuracy with both. I don't load to the max with either one, as I'm trying to keep recoil down a bit.

For my 270 Win. and 30/06 I'm still doing the full length sizing like I've always done.

But neck sizing sure saves a whole lot of time.

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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2022, 10:01:12 AM »
I wouldn't say neck sizing is a thing of the past at all. I've been reloading for 40 years, but only in the last five years have I been neck sizing. I do it for two rifles- my daughter's 7mm-08 and my 338 Win. Mag.

Getting great accuracy with both. I don't load to the max with either one, as I'm trying to keep recoil down a bit.

For my 270 Win. and 30/06 I'm still doing the full length sizing like I've always done.

But neck sizing sure saves a whole lot of time.
till your brass grows enough to be difficult to chamber. Then youíll need to bump shoulders.
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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2022, 10:33:35 AM »
I wouldn't say neck sizing is a thing of the past at all. I've been reloading for 40 years, but only in the last five years have I been neck sizing. I do it for two rifles- my daughter's 7mm-08 and my 338 Win. Mag.

Getting great accuracy with both. I don't load to the max with either one, as I'm trying to keep recoil down a bit.

For my 270 Win. and 30/06 I'm still doing the full length sizing like I've always done.

But neck sizing sure saves a whole lot of time.
till your brass grows enough to be difficult to chamber. Then youíll need to bump shoulders.

Yes I understand that, but for these rifles I will load up maybe 50 cartridges and that may last three years, or maybe longer. So it could be a long time before bumping the shoulders back is necessary.

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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2022, 12:12:32 PM »
I just love that he tried to give solid advice, and internet experts tried to call him a liar......

So he asked like 50 of The Best shooters out there.

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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2022, 12:21:46 PM »


[/quote]till your brass grows enough to be difficult to chamber. Then youíll need to bump shoulders.
[/quote]


The whole dang piece of brass grows so that it no longer chambers properly.  I have schematic drawings of the cartridge cases I load and the dimensions from neck sizing only, exceeds the schematics from top to bottom.  Bulging at the web was common.  The point comes when a neck sized case will not drop into a case checker tool and then you know you have a problem. 

Im of the opinion that regardless of how you reload, the single most important factor (until you have a problem), is case to case consistency before and after loading.

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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2022, 12:27:12 PM »


till your brass grows enough to be difficult to chamber. Then youíll need to bump shoulders.
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The whole dang piece of brass grows so that it no longer chambers properly.  I have schematic drawings of the cartridge cases I load and the dimensions from neck sizing only, exceeds the schematics from top to bottom.  Bulging at the web was common.  The point comes when a neck sized case will not drop into a case checker tool and then you know you have a problem. 

Im of the opinion that regardless of how you reload, the single most important factor (until you have a problem), is case to case consistency before and after loading.
[/quote] I never use a cartridge gage. Whoís to say itís even close to my chamber? Over sizing brass can cause trouble just as easily as under sizing
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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2022, 01:34:22 PM »
I only use them if a problem arises to give me a starting point.

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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2022, 08:24:15 PM »
For my precision loads I size 1/3 down case, rotate 33 degrees, size down 2/3 down case, rotate another 33 degrees, then full size. Keeps cases as concentric as possible

Hmmmmm. What about the last 1 degree?? 😂🤣😂🤣😂
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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2022, 08:58:34 PM »
Last degree? Last 294 degrees? 360 degrees/6.28 radians in a circle. I think he may have meant 120 degrees each rotation? :dunno:

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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2022, 09:07:23 PM »
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Re: Neck Size or Full Length Size?
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2022, 07:06:53 AM »
I've heard or the other way is best depending who you talk to, I happened to stumble onto this video:


Fairly new to the game, love it thanks for sharing  :tup:
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