The land on the way down to the Mudflow is mostly Weyco land. From my understanding, no access permit means no hunting on the way down. In my opinion the antlerless tag is the harder tag top fill for the mudflow these days. Friend had that tag a few years back and it was a waiting game to see when one would appear. Bulls everywhere feeding away and not a mature cow in sight. Was a crazy experience watching all those elk for hours without being able to take a shot.