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Offline jasnt

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Archery newbie
« on: August 17, 2022, 12:44:11 PM »
Iíve decided to take up archery. So far it has been bitter sweet.   
Went to a local shop, great guys and helpful.  Gave them my budget and got a bow setup up for me.  Shot it about 25 times at the shop, go home and get setup for site in, shot one arrow then second attempt I get to 3/4 draw and boom, limbs fly off and arrow snaps in half.  Limbs land behind me string still attached to my release.  Shop is taking care of the bow but Iím not sure if I did something wrong or just got a lemon.  Not sure if I can trust the bow anymore and hoping it doesnít affect my shooting after this incident.   I really donít want this to leave a sour taste in my mouth. 
The shop is well known and I want to trust that the bow will be gtg but Iím reluctant. 

Any advice is appreciated


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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2022, 12:49:34 PM »
Maybe someone dry fired the bow before you bought it?  :dunno:
I think I would probably have a hard time not flinching the next time I shot the bow if that happened to me.  Good luck.
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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2022, 12:51:47 PM »
Maybe someone dry fired the bow before you bought it?  :dunno:
I think I would probably have a hard time not flinching the next time I shot the bow if that happened to me.  Good luck.
was brand new out of the box.  Idk what to think
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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2022, 02:14:16 PM »
First, glad you are ok!

Second, I would say to try shooting again at a very close range as in, like a couple feet away where you don't have to aim. Draw, anchor, hold, and release. Keep doing that until everything is consistent and you are comfortable, then move out again to start sighting in.

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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2022, 03:54:06 PM »
Glad you are OK!

Did the limbs break or come off the riser? If broken they should be warranty replaced and the bow restored to new condition. If they came off the riser it might be the limb bolts weren't fully seated or were backed off too far to lighten your draw weight? That could be a factory issue or a set up issue. Limbs coming off does not sound like you derailed it on the draw, if the cams came off that could be a derail. For shooting the bow again I would maybe turn the draw weight down if possible and build some confidence back that way. And as stated, close range, no difficult aiming, just get reps in. Glad to hear you are still wanting to give it a go!
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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2022, 04:08:50 PM »
Don't let this experience deture you from bow hunting. Something went wrong on set up. Archery is fun keep at it. An like others have said glad your ok.

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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2022, 04:10:00 PM »
Very surprised to hear this happened. Curious what all they did in those 25 shots. Did they turn out the limb bolts? Did the limbs actually break in half?

Did you take any pictures?

Glad you didn't get hurt, but I'm also very suspect that any new bow would do that after 25 shots without something manually done to the bow that was not correct and even negligent.

With anything bad that happened, just got to get reps and will go away. I've done a few accidental hit the thumb release when I was just learning and that was enough to shake me a bit, but I learned and muscle memory to not let it happen again.

Bows should never do what happened to you.

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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2022, 04:31:15 PM »
Limbs didnít break. Just came out the riser.  Bow was set at 40lbs at purchase and drop down rest mounted.  Maybe the bolts did shake loose but this bow should be able to go down to 7 lbs I read. 7-70lbs.   Itís a diamond edge 320.   Hopefully itís back in my hands soon.  Iíll do as recommendations say and do a bunch of close reps before I finish site in.  Thanks everyone.   
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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2022, 07:43:02 PM »
The 7 to 70 pounds also factors DL, so dont use that as a guide. However 40 pounds should have no problems at all. If all is as described, it sounds like a factory error. Possibly missing a bushing, or the wrong length limb bolts. It can happen with any bow, but does occur more in budget models where QC tends to not be as tight. However once resolved  be confident moving forward. Enjoy the journey  :tup:

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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2022, 08:44:32 PM »
Sounds like whoever set you up wasnt qualified.....Id be about getting a refund and moving on to the next shop, and tooling up and taking care of myself.

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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2022, 08:59:02 PM »
Sounds like whoever set you up wasnt qualified.....Id be about getting a refund and moving on to the next shop, and tooling up and taking care of myself.
Iíll definitely be tooling up and doing my own work soon!
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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2022, 03:13:42 PM »
Most likely you derailed the bow, or dry fired it. Sounds like you dry fired it. Based on the broken arrow. It can happen by accident easily if your not paying attention. Like you drew back and the arrow came off the string and then you shot. Or if it happened when drawing back you derailed it and from their all kinds of stuff can break. Where the limbs back way off to make the poundage low enough for you to be able to pull it back?

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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2022, 03:18:44 PM »
Limbs didnít break. Just came out the riser.  Bow was set at 40lbs at purchase and drop down rest mounted.  Maybe the bolts did shake loose but this bow should be able to go down to 7 lbs I read. 7-70lbs.   Itís a diamond edge 320.   Hopefully itís back in my hands soon.  Iíll do as recommendations say and do a bunch of close reps before I finish site in.  Thanks everyone.

Itís very important when you draw a bow back you do not twist or torque the bow. Your left hand should be limp and not squeezing the bow. If you twist the bow enough it will derail and broken limbs, bent cams, broken string is all common. Itís very rare for a bow to fail. Itís 99% of the time user error.

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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2022, 06:31:36 PM »
Most likely you derailed the bow, or dry fired it. Sounds like you dry fired it. Based on the broken arrow. It can happen by accident easily if your not paying attention. Like you drew back and the arrow came off the string and then you shot. Or if it happened when drawing back you derailed it and from their all kinds of stuff can break. Where the limbs back way off to make the poundage low enough for you to be able to pull it back?
Yes itís very light.   I bring bow up to target, relax grip and draw, find anchor, touch nose to string, then sight target.  This happened with grip fingers relaxed not touching the grip and 3/4 the way through the draw.   When limbs came off and landed behind me my release was still attached to the D loop.
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Re: Archery newbie
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2022, 08:16:55 PM »
Not sure with that specific bow, but bowtech bows used to have very shallow valleys in the camsÖ..to shallow in my opinionÖ..and if you torqued while in the draw motion you could derail the string.  Saw it happen on a buddies bow twice, he was a new archer.   

Again, not sure that is the problem but would explain a bow completely blowing up, especially if you released at draw after a derail.   

Glad your ok.   Keep at it and, it is a super rewarding way to hunt. 

 


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