Could be very bad for freedom?

[hdshot]

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/jury-reaches-verdict-jennifer-crumbley-manslaughter-trial/story?id=106924349

Makes me wonder what could happen these days if an adult duck hunter stepped out of the blind to retrieve a duck while an under 18 year old they are responsible for accidentally discharged their firearm in the blind hurting themself or others? Might sound like a reach but sounds like this is the first horrible tragedy parents are being found guilty for actions of others such as their kids? 

When under 18, drove the parents truck with the shotgun to go hunting but could be a higher risk for the parents these days?   

Definitively questionable now taking someone else’s kid family or not use my gun or even take them hunting unless their parent is with them at all times in today’s world.  Could have got harder being a parent even letting their kids drive.

[jrebel]

This was an extreme case in my opinion.  This mom was negligent in her actions.....and really should be held liable.  I agree it opens the door and sets precedent for future cases, but this lady needs to be held accountable for her actions.  Her son had known mental health problems and she thought it was a good idea to purchase him a pistol.  Unless there is something I am missing with the facts of the case....I'm glad these deadbeat parents are being held accountable for their actions that lead to their child's reckless behavior. 

I also don't think your examples of an accidental / negligent discharge while hunting translates to the above case.  Two completely different scenarios.   Both end in tragedy....but one was with obvious intent.  A parent that hunts with their children, takes them to hunters safety, locks firearms up, practices, etc. etc. etc.....hopefully will not be held to the same standard.

[ghosthunter]

This was an extreme case in my opinion.  This mom was negligent in her actions.....and really should be held liable.  I agree it opens the door and sets precedent for future cases, but this lady needs to be held accountable for her actions.  Her son had known mental health problems and she thought it was a good idea to purchase him a pistol.  Unless there is something   I am missing with the facts of the case....I'm glad these deadbeat parents are being held accountable for their actions that lead to their child's reckless behavior. 

I also don't think your examples of an accidental / negligent discharge while hunting translates to the above case.  Two completely different scenarios.   Both end in tragedy....but one was with obvious intent.  A parent that hunts with their children, takes them to hunters safety, locks firearms up, practices, etc. etc. etc.....hopefully will not be held to the same standard.

I agree.

[hdshot]

I couldn’t legally buy that gun I hunted with under 18 and if some unfortunate accident happened while hunting with friends might not be good for the person who bought me that gun in todays world.  Just hard to pick and choose.

[Fidelk]

Bought a .22 rifle when I was 13......back before the craziness started.

[MADMAX]

The last 4 years have been the most anti American chitshow I’ve ever seen

[jrebel]

I couldn’t legally buy that gun I hunted with under 18 and if some unfortunate accident happened while hunting with friends might not be good for the person who bought me that gun in todays world.  Just hard to pick and choose.

Not really....It's about time these deadbeat parents are held accountable. 

I have purchased many rifles, shotguns and pistols for my children to shoot and hunt with.  As a responsible parent, they don't get have access to these firearms unless I know about it.  Neither are old enough yet to take them hunting without my presence.  Both are old enough and responsible enough to sit in a turkey blind without me (I am on the same property or w/in yelling distance), but we have the same safety conversation every time I leave them.  My kids understand what happens if a mistake is made.....DEATH!!  Heaven forbid an accident ever happen.....as a parent, I have done everything in my power to be responsible and there is a very clear track record of such behavior.  I whole heartedly believe, in the event of an accident / negligent discharge I wouldn't be held to the same standard. 

Now....If one of my children has a mental breakdown and I allow them access to a pistol....shame on me!!  The kid in the article had clear mental health issues and the mom ignored them and still bought him a pistol. 

Teach your children firearms safety early.  Be a responsible parent.  Don't be dumb....and you as a parent should be just fine.   Accidental / negligent (notice I don't differentiate) with no intent is significantly different then targeted, premeditated murder.  That mom has blood on her hands for being dumb and making bad decisions.  She deserves to be held accountable.   

[jrebel]

The last 4 years have been the most anti American chitshow I’ve ever seen

Do you believe this mom being held accountable is "anti American"? 

[MADMAX]

The last 4 years have been the most anti American chitshow I’ve ever seen

Do you believe this mom being held accountable is "anti American"?

No just the BS policies

The kid ultimately is responsible but he will get a mental health crisis pass most likely

[jrebel]

The last 4 years have been the most anti American chitshow I’ve ever seen

Do you believe this mom being held accountable is "anti American"?

No just the BS policies

100% agree!!

[Bullkllr]

Weirdest part of that story was the kid had the gun in his backpack the whole while when his parents were meeting with the officials at the school.

[baldopepper]

The last 4 years have been the most anti American chitshow I’ve ever seen

Do you believe this mom being held accountable is "anti American"?

No just the BS policies

The kid ultimately is responsible but he will get a mental health crisis pass most likely

Kid has already plead guilty and sentenced to life in prison with no possible parole.
As responsible gun owners and parents we should have no problem with a crackdown
on irresponsible parents who make it easy for antis to paint us all with the same brush. Can't imagine what the thinking would be if you were a parent of one of the students he killed.

[BD1]

The kid was seeing things, he was struggling but the parents chose not to deal with it. They allowed the firearm to be accessible to him during this time. They screwed up and other families no longer have a living child. Imagine if you were on that side of the situation. Are you good with the sick kid taking the hit or would you want the parents to answer to it too? They put their own wants in front of their kid's needs and other kids died. As parents, they blew it and now other parents are putting their kids in the ground. Sorry but I see it only one way...it is not political...it is paternal. If you haven't lost a kid you have no idea...period.

[MADMAX]

I totally get that.
In my opinion it’s never been a gun issue. It’s always been a mental health, Lack of negative consequence issue every friggin time something happens it’s not because of the gun, but it’s always the highlight of the evening news and legislative actions.
Gun violence
If he used a vehicle to run over 10 kids getting off the bus
Would it be the vehicles fault or the person who purchased the vehicle ?

But yes a tragedy that shouldn’t happen

[jrebel]

I totally get that.
In my opinion it’s never been a gun issue. It’s always been a mental health, Lack of negative consequence issue every friggin time something happens it’s not because of the gun, but it’s always the highlight of the evening news.
Gun violence
If he used a vehicle to run over 10 kids getting off the bus
Would it be the vehicles fault or the person who purchased the vehicle ?

But yes a tragedy that shouldn’t happen

Perfect example.....the 13 and 15 year old that ran over two pedestrians a week or so ago.  No one punished the car or made an issue of the care being at fault.  Both those kids are being tried in juvenile court for vehicular assault.  They should be tried for attempted murder / manslaughter.  They are both old enough to know better.  Makes me wonder....where were the parents???  This behavior is not normal and I guarantee the parents are deadbeats.