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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2024, 11:41:14 PM »
My WM70 had a similar problem. It ended up being one of my switches to the loader was stuck and draining the battery. 

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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2024, 12:46:30 AM »
How old is the battery?  I have had 2 go out on me.  They work fine one minute and dead the next, nothing wrong with the tractor just the battery.  My diesel truck batteries will do the same.  You can take it out and charge it then have a load test put on it.  But if it is a few years old, then depending on if it sits outside or garaged I would suspect the battery.  I think mine were about 5 yrs old each time and it's garage kept.
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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2024, 06:20:02 AM »
this is a pretty easy way to test the battery on all of your equipment.

https://www.harborfreight.com/135-amp-612v-battery-and-system-load-tester-58944.html

Puts a simple load on the battery.



Can you short the starter out at the solenoid terminals and see if it kicks in? I have a POS Jinma I was having problems with. Ended up pulling the starter and found out the brushes weren't all hitting the armature they were stuck in the brush housings. Freed everything up and put it back together, all is good now.


One of the tractors I have owned was a jimna. It had a glow plug problem. They fed the glow plug circuit with a 22 gauge wire to heat the plugs. It would roll over but was hard starting.
The cure was to add a 30 amp automotive relay in the start circuit and then run from the battery a #10 wire to the glo plug strip. I used the original wire to feed the relay.
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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2024, 07:59:47 AM »
Unless both of your batteries are bad this is a relay, sensor, connection issue it sounds like to me. Try wiggling wires at Connectors while turning it over to see if that makes a connection somewhere.

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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2024, 08:59:07 AM »
I'm with LDennis. Sounds like a safety switch (Neutral, clutch, seat, ???) or a loose connection.
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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2024, 10:41:26 AM »
A lot of Deere’s have an issue with voltage drop to the solenoid through the ignition switch. A relay close to the solenoid is the fix

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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2024, 03:00:31 PM »
Battery is newer and load tested solid today. Fuses checked out good as well. Regarding not starting I need to be clear that it isn’t turning over with the key. Nothing. Nada except a light click at or near the starter. Lights and dash all light up.

I’ve checked and rechecked all levers, etc. Here’s the deal. It ran with everything working. Parked it and shut it down. Didn’t do anything PTO wise except lower loader and box blade. Immediately tried starting it and nothing. At the turn of the key there’s one and only one light click at or near the starter. Hard to tell while on the seat.


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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2024, 03:17:37 PM »
Sounds like starter problems to me.

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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2024, 03:19:33 PM »
Do you have the pto engaged? My Kubota will not start if the pto is engaged. Or your if you are not saddled up in the seat. But in neutral with not and not in any gears it will start and idle, but if it is any forward or reverse it is just a lawn ornament.

Neighbor was using my tractor today tilling up his garden and stalled it and he couldn't get it fired with the pto engaged.
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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2024, 03:48:40 PM »
BINGO!!

Drive’n me nuts. Went back out and tossed more wood on my burn pile and thinking about cocktail hour and neutral safety switches…. Got under there and started jiggling those wires. Hit the key and she fired up.

Should order a new unit with fresh connectors and will But I’m happy!!

Thanks to all for your input. Whiskey on ice tonight!

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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2024, 05:41:48 PM »
BINGO!!

Drive’n me nuts. Went back out and tossed more wood on my burn pile and thinking about cocktail hour and neutral safety switches…. Got under there and started jiggling those wires. Hit the key and she fired up.

Should order a new unit with fresh connectors and will But I’m happy!!

Thanks to all for your input. Whiskey on ice tonight!

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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2024, 06:36:04 PM »
Alright! I hate safety sensors. You can bypass that but it's not safe when you come to rely on it to keep someone from starting it in gear.

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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2024, 08:06:15 AM »
BINGO!!

Drive’n me nuts. Went back out and tossed more wood on my burn pile and thinking about cocktail hour and neutral safety switches…. Got under there and started jiggling those wires. Hit the key and she fired up.

Should order a new unit with fresh connectors and will But I’m happy!!

Thanks to all for your input. Whiskey on ice tonight!

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Actually doesn’t make sense. You said that the solenoid was clicking, that means the solenoid was getting voltage. An open safety won’t allow that

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Re: Tractor Guys
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2024, 11:16:00 AM »
BINGO!!

Drive’n me nuts. Went back out and tossed more wood on my burn pile and thinking about cocktail hour and neutral safety switches…. Got under there and started jiggling those wires. Hit the key and she fired up.

Should order a new unit with fresh connectors and will But I’m happy!!

Thanks to all for your input. Whiskey on ice tonight!

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Actually doesn’t make sense. You said that the solenoid was clicking, that means the solenoid was getting voltage. An open safety won’t allow that



I referenced a light click. Just one while turning the key to start. Very faint. Not your basic click, click, click if that’s makes sense. It was clearly the neutral safety wires at the connectors. Still starts. Thank you. I’ve learned a lot the last couple of days.

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