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Re: Shed hunters shot at.
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2024, 06:46:45 PM »
Don't need to implement a license, just ban the sale of antlers. The guys going for a walk and collecting a few for their pile aren't the problem
Middle ground here - have a license requirement for the sales but the guy collecting a few for his own use is good to go.
:yeah:

They are technically running a business and I personally think it should be treated as such.  The amount of lawlessness (trespassing, wildlife harassment, assault and intimidation) that goes on with some areas that I used to shed hunt has gotten exponentially worse since it essentially became big business. 

These guys that are out there intentionally "jumping" the deer herds and stressing out the animals just to get them to drop their sheds.  I about got into a very serious situation once when a guy kept pushing this 170's 4 point.  The buck had its tongue hanging out and laboring and the damn guy wouldn't leave it alone.
Just wondering how a $100 license is going to lessen the pressure on the animals or insanity of the commercial guys...
I don't know maybe it would expose them to the Dept of Revenue?  They are technically a business operating without a business license? Make it $1,000 commercial license if they are selling them.  Everything else is more expensive as a business.  I can pull an L&I electrical permit as a homeowner for $X amount.  If a licensed electrical contractor pulls the same permit for the same work it is 3-4 times $X (it has been a while since I have pulled one so no idea the cost these days)
So you're saying a guy who goes and collects sheds and sells them to a buyer needs a business license? What about the migrants picking forest products, do they need a business license to sell to a buyer? My son used to go wrangle up baseballs near baseball fields and sell them to Play it Again Sports, should he need a business license?

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Re: Shed hunters shot at.
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2024, 09:16:04 PM »
Don't need to implement a license, just ban the sale of antlers. The guys going for a walk and collecting a few for their pile aren't the problem
Middle ground here - have a license requirement for the sales but the guy collecting a few for his own use is good to go.
:yeah:

They are technically running a business and I personally think it should be treated as such.  The amount of lawlessness (trespassing, wildlife harassment, assault and intimidation) that goes on with some areas that I used to shed hunt has gotten exponentially worse since it essentially became big business. 

These guys that are out there intentionally "jumping" the deer herds and stressing out the animals just to get them to drop their sheds.  I about got into a very serious situation once when a guy kept pushing this 170's 4 point.  The buck had its tongue hanging out and laboring and the damn guy wouldn't leave it alone.
Just wondering how a $100 license is going to lessen the pressure on the animals or insanity of the commercial guys...
I don't know maybe it would expose them to the Dept of Revenue?  They are technically a business operating without a business license? Make it $1,000 commercial license if they are selling them.  Everything else is more expensive as a business.  I can pull an L&I electrical permit as a homeowner for $X amount.  If a licensed electrical contractor pulls the same permit for the same work it is 3-4 times $X (it has been a while since I have pulled one so no idea the cost these days)
So you're saying a guy who goes and collects sheds and sells them to a buyer needs a business license? What about the migrants picking forest products, do they need a business license to sell to a buyer? My son used to go wrangle up baseballs near baseball fields and sell them to Play it Again Sports, should he need a business license?
Hell yes they should have a business license! The state and federal law enforcement should be empowered,  this is theft of public resources. Resources held in trust, exploitation should be addressed. As for sheds,  it's getting ridiculous. so maybe it's time for the state to step in. If your kids wrangling balls hurts resources then it may need regulation.

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Re: Shed hunters shot at.
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2024, 01:45:10 AM »
They need to ban the sale of antlers.  It would reduce the harassment of animals and give everyone a chance to go find a shed.  But when you have people out there collecting dozens at a time and that's all they do then most don't stand a chance.  The wildlife is property of the state so no individual should profit from something not theirs.  Going with a permit or license for sheds is ridiculous, every hunter picks up the forky they find as a souvenir from their hunting area.  Can you imagine getting a ticket for it if you didn't have a permit.
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Re: Shed hunters shot at.
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2024, 02:12:47 PM »
Don't need to implement a license, just ban the sale of antlers. The guys going for a walk and collecting a few for their pile aren't the problem
Middle ground here - have a license requirement for the sales but the guy collecting a few for his own use is good to go.
:yeah:

They are technically running a business and I personally think it should be treated as such.  The amount of lawlessness (trespassing, wildlife harassment, assault and intimidation) that goes on with some areas that I used to shed hunt has gotten exponentially worse since it essentially became big business. 

These guys that are out there intentionally "jumping" the deer herds and stressing out the animals just to get them to drop their sheds.  I about got into a very serious situation once when a guy kept pushing this 170's 4 point.  The buck had its tongue hanging out and laboring and the damn guy wouldn't leave it alone.
Just wondering how a $100 license is going to lessen the pressure on the animals or insanity of the commercial guys...
I don't know maybe it would expose them to the Dept of Revenue?  They are technically a business operating without a business license? Make it $1,000 commercial license if they are selling them.  Everything else is more expensive as a business.  I can pull an L&I electrical permit as a homeowner for $X amount.  If a licensed electrical contractor pulls the same permit for the same work it is 3-4 times $X (it has been a while since I have pulled one so no idea the cost these days)
So you're saying a guy who goes and collects sheds and sells them to a buyer needs a business license? What about the migrants picking forest products, do they need a business license to sell to a buyer? My son used to go wrangle up baseballs near baseball fields and sell them to Play it Again Sports, should he need a business license?

Yes, and we already do. Commercial foraging requires a license that you can buy on the website.

We should just align this to the existing licensing scheme for foraging other things, and set rules and regs around it, open up and close seasons, etc.. At a minimum, it gives green jeans another lever to pull for people who go overboard. Its not just a charge for harassing wildlife, but can also suspend commercial licensing for sheds for a season or number of years.
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Re: Shed hunters shot at.
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2024, 10:15:43 AM »
Don't need to implement a license, just ban the sale of antlers. The guys going for a walk and collecting a few for their pile aren't the problem

Middle ground here - have a license requirement for the sales but the guy collecting a few for his own use is good to go.
:yeah:

They are technically running a business and I personally think it should be treated as such.  The amount of lawlessness (trespassing, wildlife harassment, assault and intimidation) that goes on with some areas that I used to shed hunt has gotten exponentially worse since it essentially became big business. 

These guys that are out there intentionally "jumping" the deer herds and stressing out the animals just to get them to drop their sheds.  I about got into a very serious situation once when a guy kept pushing this 170's 4 point.  The buck had its tongue hanging out and laboring and the damn guy wouldn't leave it alone.

Just wondering how a $100 license is going to lessen the pressure on the animals or insanity of the commercial guys...

I don't know maybe it would expose them to the Dept of Revenue?  They are technically a business operating without a business license? Make it $1,000 commercial license if they are selling them.  Everything else is more expensive as a business.  I can pull an L&I electrical permit as a homeowner for $X amount.  If a licensed electrical contractor pulls the same permit for the same work it is 3-4 times $X (it has been a while since I have pulled one so no idea the cost these days)


The above is a flat out lie. Electrical Business and Homeowners fill out the same permit app as each other and the permit is the same cost for each.... It's been this way for the last 20+ years. Maybe you haven't pulled a permit in that time.... I won't argue with you that there is additional cost of running a business but this isn't one of them.

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Re: Shed hunters shot at.
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2024, 10:34:30 AM »
I'm not in Washington at the moment, and haven't been able to shed hunt this year, but I do have two cents on the shed hunting license. Why make more laws/licenses when your not enforcing the ones you already have? Shooting at people is already illegal. Pressuring/harassing wildlife is already illegal. Trespassing is already illegal. If those rules would be enforced, would licenses make any difference?

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