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Offline dilleytech

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Re: Didn't draw again 🤣
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2024, 08:33:44 AM »
I have drawn a tag 3 years in a row. The most points I have had was 7 for a quality deer tag. But ya this state sucks. Try putting in for easier to draw tags and have some fun before you die.

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Re: Didn't draw again 🤣
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2024, 09:46:56 AM »
:yeah:

No game commission in the west is managing game anymore for hunter benefit. Lottery systems are checkers, preference systems are chess.

  I do think the wdfw could streamline some of this easily enough by eliminating categories and simply raising the permit app fee to cover it.

This past weekend we camped at the Conconully State Park and went on a hike in the NF.  What did we mostly see?  Moose poop.  Is there tags sold there?  Nope!  Same for the Blues, I find much more often the elk sign is moose.  But no tag.  What drives me nuts is how limited opportunity is in WA.  I get there are a few species that we need to guard, sadly that includes elk in the Blues.  But other things like moose and even second deer tags are much too hard to draw from what I can tell.  The opportunity to draw is frustrating, not drawing is what it is to me.  In 2021, 121,155 applications for a moose tag.  That year they distributed 135 tags...  WFWD says there are approximately 5,000 in the state and does address a population outside of the Selkirks.  A moose population study and offer at least a single tag in these non-Selkirk regions is important.

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Re: Didn't draw again 🤣
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2024, 10:41:03 AM »
Ahh, the “deserve” word, it gets peoples panties in a bunch.  Simple question, why does WY give 75% of their tags to the highest point holders?  Just because? Or do they feel the guys waiting the longest “deserve” a much better chance?  It’s not a “right” it’s simple if you think about it.  A guy standing in line for 3 hours at a popular ride, does he deserve to get on the ride before some guy who woke up late and just walks past everyone and gets on in 5 minutes?  It’s not a bad word, deserve is what a lot of people feel who have been waiting decades, compared to some lucky guy who drew w decades less points.  I don’t look down on the guys w 25+ points who feel they’ve put in their time and should draw, they should. I get the odds suck big time, but even IF I zero out someday, I’ll always feel the guys/gals waiting decades “deserve” a damn tag.  Appreciate your thoughts on my example of Wyoming.  Flame on
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Re: Didn't draw again 🤣
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2024, 10:52:12 AM »
Deserve is that just a different term for "Entitled"?

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Re: Didn't draw again 🤣
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2024, 10:52:56 AM »
All the point system is doing is giving people the illusion that they have a better  chance of drawing as they get more points. We basically have a random draw system with very poor odds. If we all actually know what draw odds were we wouldnt be surprised when we dont draw. Just a completely random draw like Idaho's in my opinion would be best. The odds are clear, you make your pick. I dont believe most people realize how low our odds of drawing are.

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Re: Didn't draw again 🤣
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2024, 11:03:49 AM »
Ahh, the “deserve” word, it gets peoples panties in a bunch.  Simple question, why does WY give 75% of their tags to the highest point holders?  Just because? Or do they feel the guys waiting the longest “deserve” a much better chance?  It’s not a “right” it’s simple if you think about it.  A guy standing in line for 3 hours at a popular ride, does he deserve to get on the ride before some guy who woke up late and just walks past everyone and gets on in 5 minutes?  It’s not a bad word, deserve is what a lot of people feel who have been waiting decades, compared to some lucky guy who drew w decades less points.  I don’t look down on the guys w 25+ points who feel they’ve put in their time and should draw, they should. I get the odds suck big time, but even IF I zero out someday, I’ll always feel the guys/gals waiting decades “deserve” a damn tag.  Appreciate your thoughts on my example of Wyoming.  Flame on

Why does Wyoming offer the option to pay $2000 for the same exact elk tag as another guy who can only afford the $690 tag, just to boost odds? Why does Wyoming sell $50 preference points on top of that $2000 tag? Because revenue. Wyoming doesn't give two $***$ about fairness, or who "deserves" a tag.  They give 75% of the tags to top point holders to force those individuals to keep investing in their points system. Drop one point below max and you're screwed
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Re: Didn't draw again 🤣
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2024, 11:26:54 AM »
Ahh, the “deserve” word, it gets peoples panties in a bunch.  Simple question, why does WY give 75% of their tags to the highest point holders?  Just because? Or do they feel the guys waiting the longest “deserve” a much better chance?  It’s not a “right” it’s simple if you think about it.  A guy standing in line for 3 hours at a popular ride, does he deserve to get on the ride before some guy who woke up late and just walks past everyone and gets on in 5 minutes?  It’s not a bad word, deserve is what a lot of people feel who have been waiting decades, compared to some lucky guy who drew w decades less points.  I don’t look down on the guys w 25+ points who feel they’ve put in their time and should draw, they should. I get the odds suck big time, but even IF I zero out someday, I’ll always feel the guys/gals waiting decades “deserve” a damn tag.  Appreciate your thoughts on my example of Wyoming.  Flame on

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Re: Didn't draw again 🤣
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2024, 12:59:02 PM »
I can join the loser club.  Anywhere from 8-21 points in all categories and not one tag :dunno:  Can't catch a break.

 


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