Bergara vs fierce

[b23]

I have read that the Federal ammo loaded with the 175 ELDX does get really close to that 3000fps mark.

Wonder if it's truly Federal manufacturing or if it's actually made by Hornady for Federal.  Next time I'm at Cabela's or SW I'll have to look to see if they have some Federal 7 PRC ammo and take a quick look at the Lot# to see if it's a Hornady sequence # or a actual Federal #.  I'm kind of curious now so I see a trip to one or the other in my near future. 

These companies contract with one another at times to make certain ammo for them and put the same ammo but with the other companies head stamped brass and box.  I don't know that this is the case with this particular 7 PRC ammo but it's easy enough to figure out.

[Lowedog]

"When word came across the wires on October 16, 2023, that Vista Outdoor had entered into an agreement to sell off its Sporting Products business to Czechoslovak Group (CSG) — a company headquartered in Prague, Czech Republic — it created considerable buzz in our corner of the shooting sports industry, and understandably so. Vista Outdoor owns not only ammunition reloading mainstays like Speer (bullets and cartridges), CCI (primers and cartridges), and Alliant Powder brands, but also the powerhouse cartridge brands Federal and Remington along with specialty shotshell brands Estate Cartridge and Hevi-Shot. Together, these brands represent a large segment of the ammunition and component business our community has depended on for decades. "

https://shoot-on.com/update-czech-company-to-purchase-major-american-ammunition-brands/

[JJB11B]

I am in the market for a new rifle and the fierce carbon rogue is what I was set on until I read into them more and have hardly found good reviews. Instead I have been thinking about getting the Bergara ridge carbon wilderness and putting a carbon stock on it. Does anybody have any experience with either that would lean me one way or the other?

If anyone has any other suggestions feel free to tell me. Looking for lighter weight, mid to close range in 7 prc. And no I don’t want to build a $4000 custom rifle, would like to stay 2k or below

I just bought that rifle in 300 win mag and I really like it! Saved a lot of money I can use to put better glass on it and develop a good load to hunt with it. It has A 24” barrel

[safehunter]

 I have to agree with Seekins also!  I have had the new SLAM 7prc on order since Aug. only with a 24" barrel after lots of comparisons.
 
           

[edaniels97]

BTW, didn't mean to hi-jack your thread.  If it were me, I would be looking really hard at the Seekins.

No worries! All is helpful in my decision making. I have had the ph2 “in my cart” for about 2 months but I just can’t get myself talked into buying another long barreled vertical grip rifle. A buddy of mine talked me into rifle hunting for elk this year and being that i hung my 270 up for good and I don’t trust a 6.5 on an elk I ended packing around my xbolt lr max in 300rum. Even though I’ve packed that rifle countless miles in the back country it’s clearly not a good one for short range timber hunting which is what led me to looking at a shorter barrel and sporter style stock. Also like I said I don’t own a 7mm and I feel that the 7prc, even if it’s slightly, is superior to the 7 rem. Ammo will be hand loaded unless I end up with a rifle that shoots factory really well.

[teanawayslayer]

BTW, didn't mean to hi-jack your thread.  If it were me, I would be looking really hard at the Seekins.

No worries! All is helpful in my decision making. I have had  :twocents:the ph2 “in my cart” for about 2 months but I just can’t get myself talked into buying another long barreled vertical grip rifle. A buddy of mine talked me into rifle hunting for elk this year and being that i hung my 270 up for good and I don’t trust a 6.5 on an elk I ended packing around my xbolt lr max in 300rum. Even though I’ve packed that rifle countless miles in the back country it’s clearly not a good one for short range timber hunting which is what led me to looking at a shorter barrel and sporter style stock. Also like I said I don’t own a 7mm and I feel that the 7prc, even if it’s slightly, is superior to the 7 rem. Ammo will be hand loaded unless I end up with a rifle that shoots factory really well.

if your not wanting the long barrel get the element. 22” barrel and long actions weigh in at 6#

[Lowedog]

I have to agree with Seekins also!  I have had the new SLAM 7prc on order since Aug. only with a 24" barrel after lots of comparisons.
 
         

We need a review once you have that and get some time with it.  That rifle looks like the ultimate back country rifle. 

[fowl smacker]

Myself and 2 of my buddies both have Fierce 7mm PRC's.  I have the Carbon Rage, they both have the Carbon Rogue.  They flat out shoot! I've had mine for 2 years now.  I shoot the factory Hornady Precision 175 eldx out of mine and at 100 yards I shoot one ragged hole.  Killed my whitetail last yr at 550yds even and killed a Mule deer this yr at 684yards, a blacktail at 378yds.  It is the most accurate hunting rifle I've owned and it's easy to carry.  I have never owned or shot a Bergara, but I would recommend the Fierce.  I'll post a pic of this yrs Mule deer.

[pickardjw]

Not hard to find horror stories with Fierce. I sure wouldn't buy one.

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/fierce-firearms-disaster.293232/

[fowl smacker]

Not hard to find horror stories with Fierce. I sure wouldn't buy one.

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/fierce-firearms-disaster.293232/

Assuming they're legit horror stories.

[time2hunt]

Fierce had some issue around 2020 with Poor machining and gun smithing and customer service . I have a 6.5 PRC Carbon fury that I finally made them re barrel it. That being said it will now  shot a group of 5 and I can cover it with a nickle at 100 yards. The last I read Christiansen arms was having the same issues.


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[pickardjw]

Not hard to find horror stories with Fierce. I sure wouldn't buy one.

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/fierce-firearms-disaster.293232/

Assuming they're legit horror stories.

Where there’s smoke there’s fire…and there is a lot of smoke in that thread alone, not to mention dozens of others.

[fowl smacker]

Not hard to find horror stories with Fierce. I sure wouldn't buy one.

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/fierce-firearms-disaster.293232/

Assuming they're legit horror stories.

Where there’s smoke there’s fire…and there is a lot of smoke in that thread alone, not to mention dozens of others.

Guess all 3 of us got unicorns then. 

[elkrack]

Not hard to find horror stories with Fierce. I sure wouldn't buy one.

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/fierce-firearms-disaster.293232/

Assuming they're legit horror stories.

Where there’s smoke there’s fire…and there is a lot of smoke in that thread alone, not to mention dozens of others.

Guess all 3 of us got unicorns then. 

No my buddy has one that shoots really well and functions perfectly. I’m sure they have tightened up their quality control

[edaniels97]

Not hard to find horror stories with Fierce. I sure wouldn't buy one.

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/fierce-firearms-disaster.293232/

Assuming they're legit horror stories.

Where there’s smoke there’s fire…and there is a lot of smoke in that thread alone, not to mention dozens of others.

Guess all 3 of us got unicorns then. 

No my buddy has one that shoots really well and functions perfectly. I’m sure they have tightened up their quality control

A friend of mine had a fierce and he said it was one of the best rifles he’s had. I feel like you will always read more bad reviews than you will good on anything but man it sure does make it tough to believe otherwise when there are so many complaints about them.

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