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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2025, 10:17:42 AM »
I believe Idaho was trying to go down this same road.

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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2025, 12:13:07 PM »
I believe Idaho was trying to go down this same road.
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There were about a dozen states that signed on to it.

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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2025, 12:15:53 PM »
If you guys haven't listened to Your Mountain podcasts you really should. They mainly talk about land management/natural resource politics and policies. It should be noted the hosts are conservatives who used to work for a Republican governor in Wyoming.

They chalked up Utah's case to one thing...$$$. Utah was trying to get the BLM lands in the state for its mineral resources. They weren't trying to get Forest Service, Reclamation, etc lands. They wanted the BLM lands so they can get the $ that's under the land.

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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2025, 12:58:15 PM »
 A very big factor is also the livestock grazing issue on blm ground. Environmentalists having been pushing for tighter restrictions and higher charges while livestock interests have fought had against them.  The Clive Bundy followers in Utah have spearheaded the state blm takeovers for quite sometime knowing they can exert influence on a state level much easier than a federal level. Livestock owners in other western states have pushed for the change for the same reason.

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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2025, 09:41:59 AM »
https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/house-approves-public-land-sales/

"After a marathon budget session the House Natural Resources Committee green-lit a measure that would sell about 11,000 acres of BLM and Forest Service land"

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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2025, 11:10:37 AM »
That is .002% of BLM/FS ownership.  Still worried?

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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2025, 11:13:03 AM »
That is .002% of BLM/FS ownership.  Still worried?

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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2025, 11:19:17 AM »
Depends on which.
 .002 they sell. Gotta believe it includes some of their prime holdings or it wouldn't sell.

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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2025, 12:22:23 PM »
It think it's possible that mineral rights might play a big part in the sales.
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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2025, 02:57:54 PM »
If there is valuable minerals on the land it should be lease and royalties should be paid to the government.

It would be even more suspicious if there was value to the land as that should be auctioned to the highest bidder or as I said leased and taxed.

And yes .002% is a big deal especially if it’s where you hunt.

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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2025, 03:13:59 PM »
Story is it's land around Las Vegas, Reno, and St George Utah that will allow for affordable housing to be built  Personally not buying that BS for a second.Rep.sponsoring the bill is a relative of Cliven Bundy, well know Sage Brush rebellion leader who's pushed for years for all federal ground to be turned over to the states.
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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2025, 03:30:31 PM »
It think it's possible that mineral rights might play a big part in the sales.
That's already done thru leasing, not outright sale of the land.

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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2025, 03:47:54 PM »
The issue is they are looking for reasons to sell the land and this is something being led by republicans. There is a group of republicans that don’t support the federal government owning land and they will push their agenda any chance they get. We need to watch what they are doing and not just side with them because they support our gun rights.

Sale of federal land to help balance the budget has been a priority for a number of Western Republicans, most notably the chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, Utah’s Mike Lee.

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Re: No More Federal Land?
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2025, 12:51:22 PM »
As an individual that uses a lot of NF land, I hope the states DO NOT take control. In today's world, states are influenced by politics and access could be diminished!

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