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Author Topic: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?  (Read 10883 times)

Offline lokidog

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Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« on: March 15, 2012, 09:31:04 PM »
I've been looking at fletching jigs and have seen straight offset and helical clamps for them.  Is helical more for feathers than vanes?  Is a 1 degree offset enough to stabilize the new faster bow/arrow combos?  I am not sure what the local place put on my vanes but I'd like to be able to do them myself.

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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2012, 09:42:04 PM »
I use a bitzenburger to put right helical on every vane I do. Helical will stabilize the arrow/broadhead the quickest. If your arrow shoot good then I would find out what the shop did and copy that.  :twocents: If you get the bitzenburger you can just buy a different clamp if you decide you want to switch later.   :twocents:

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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2012, 09:43:37 PM »
I want to see what everyones thoughts are on this topic.  I shoot 2 degree right hand offset and it seems to work well.

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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2012, 09:51:57 PM »
i shoot a helical with 3 blazers and my arrows fly great. i have a bohning helix jig but will not be getting another when its time to replace it. i have heard that the blitz will not put a true helical on blazers but thats just what i have heard.
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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2012, 03:21:25 PM »
I put a lot of helix on my blazers with the bitz.......I will try to take a pic and post it up later  :tup:

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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2012, 03:23:59 PM »
i shoot a helical with 3 blazers and my arrows fly great. i have a bohning helix jig but will not be getting another when its time to replace it. i have heard that the blitz will not put a true helical on blazers but thats just what i have heard.

I don't know what "true helical" is, but you'll be hard pressed to put FULL helical on with a Bitz.  However, I don't know why you need to.  You don't need a whole lot of offset with Blazers to make those arrows spin fast.
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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2012, 04:01:49 PM »
i always shot offset 4 inch vanes, then just before late season last year i changed to blazer heli, and the difference was unbelievable. ill never shoot 4 inch offset again. they fly way better and much more consistent. i would always have one or 2 arrows that would fly a little left/right/high/low, but now they all fly the same and hit much closer to practice tips! :twocents:
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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2012, 05:11:20 PM »
anyone shoot 4 helicals?

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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 09:41:30 PM »
i think 4 heli would be to much. you would loose a lot of speed to drag, when your already loosing speed with a heli setup. and 3 seems to work great.
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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 09:49:30 PM »
the speed you lose with helical is maybe 1 fps which is basically nothing.
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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 09:59:13 PM »
the speed you lose with helical is maybe 1 fps which is basically nothing.

at what distance? 1fps at ten yards? or 100yards? im curious. cause if thats at 1 yard then at 100 it might be 50-60 fps and that would be alot!
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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 10:18:36 PM »
I fletch 3 helical blazers, more than enough to stabilize a muzzy 3 blade

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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 11:10:15 PM »
I have a helical clamp for my Bitz, and have it adjusted for quite a lot of offset too.  It's not quite a full helical with a 4" vane.  It doesn't look like much offset with the Blazers, but it will certainly do the job.
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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2012, 08:57:54 AM »
I have a buddy who is an excellent shot. He was curious if you lose any speed with helical. He fletched up 6 straight and 6 helical and shot them at 80 yards, guess where they grouped. Yep, all in the same spot. If there was any significant speed loss it would be seen at that distance.
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Re: Is one better than the other, offset vs helical?
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2012, 12:21:51 PM »
Done with a bitz...

 

 

 


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