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Should all OTC tags be eliminated and draw only hunting be the way forward?

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Author Topic: Should ALL general season Elk hunts be canceled in favor of permit only hunting?  (Read 8308 times)

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State would likely not due away with general season elk. There is way too much profit loss. It would also make sense that if, by taking away of general season would be a way for the state to slowly disarm hunters. In theory many people only big game hunt not all, but many hunters would just give up on waiting for a lottery tag to occur. It would also hurt business (fuel, food, tax, accessories, guns, and many things that are a must for hunting). It would also hurt many people to fork out more money in hopes of a draw. Permit draw would become more expensive.

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I am sure I will get hammered for this but. Part of our problem is access. We have to easy access in Eastern Wa. in most areas. You can drive any where you want to and see another road from the one you are on. There have been multiple studies done that show most big game want to stay 3 or more miles away from road traffic. And the animals know when they start hearing the vehicles in the woods it's time to head for safe ground reserves or private land where there safe. The Clockum heard for example, the state would like to keep it around 6,000 head  talk to the biologist and they think there are around 8,000 head. They would like to keep about a 8 to 1 Cow to Bull ratio for proper breeding but because of the heard numbers they are at about 12 to 15 to 1. But because of off season kills there aren't enough mature bulls to breed the larger numbers. I have been hunting that area and others out of state (when I could afford it) since I was 12 years old I am 58 now. We as a group have always had the best luck seeing multiple animals when we have walked in for 4 or 5 miles. I am not a horn hunter I am a meat hunter. So my vote would be to leave it the same non draw general tags but consider the access issues. Grant access to those who have limited mobility. Just my thoughts go ahead and hammer away. 

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Not gonna hammer you a bit but did you forget what your member pic is?What kind of roads do you mean?Asphalt,gravel,logging?
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No hammering here, as far as colockum I am all for only having the two main roads that go from elensburg to wenatchee open, close all of the rest and increase the penalty for not following road closures
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If they start limiting road access I might not be all by myself all season long lol. I think that limiting access would be good and I don't actually think it would push more people out of their rigs either. I would be on board with that.

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I thought that my picture would get a few comments. But I use the UTV so I can park my truck and Drive from camp to camp for the social hour  :chuckle: I use it more at home than up hunting its a good conversation piece up hunting though. Sorry to get off topic.

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I thought that my picture would get a few comments. But I use the UTV so I can park my truck and Drive from camp to camp for the social hour  :chuckle: I use it more at home than up hunting its a good conversation piece up hunting though. Sorry to get off topic.
Actually that's very cool,I love riding up the road on my atv to say howdy and get to know who's out there with me.You find some pretty good people out there
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It probably should be permit only at least for say a 3 year period if the Yakama Indians will adhere to some realistic seasons and limits.  Give it a try for a 3 year period and see how it goes.

If the Indians don't want to change, then maybe it's time to do away with spike only for the rest of us.

 I'm with this guy!! I can see no good coming from limiting the rest of us so that a certain group of people can take advantage of the elk population. Everyone has to be on the same page. Hunting treaties would need some corrections and verbiage changes before this would be effective, I think.
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And you believe that will EVER happen?

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All GMU's that are within the Yakama's hunting area should have the same seasons and regulations that the Yakama's adhere to, in my opinion. If you can't beat them, join them. After all, the treaty says they have the right to hunt "in common" with us. So being that they refuse to limit themselves in any way, I say we do the same. Bull season will be year around, and cow elk season will be September 1 to December 31, no limit to how many elk a person may take. The rest of the state can go to permit only so our elk can be properly managed.
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I say we open the logging back up and see how that goes before we start blaming the Indians. While I still find elk pretty much Everytime I look i can say it is getting harder and seems number may be less up in the timber where there are little clearings left.

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I say we open the logging back up and see how that goes before we start blaming the Indians. While I still find elk pretty much Everytime I look i can say it is getting harder and seems number may be less up in the timber where there are little clearings left.
Increased feed for the herds, add some fire prevention to the area. It'd be a sound improvement.  :tup:
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