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newbie looking for tips
« on: June 23, 2012, 12:29:03 PM »
So I kind of read over the WA archery guidelines; I'm new to archery and have little to no clue on what I'm soppouse to be using. I bought a stinger 3g 60lbs Max and my draw pull is at 27 1/2 inches; the shop patron set me up with a carbon express 250 arrow at 27 3/4 with 100 great tip. Is this a decent set up that's legal limit? I can comfortably pull 70lbs + but the shop patron said its not ideal since my draw length is short, Is this true? Or would I have been better off with the 70lbs Max and slight heavier arrow?

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Re: newbie looking for tips
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2012, 12:43:14 PM »
One thing I have read is shot placement, shot placement, shot placement. Just because you can pull 70# doesn't mean you should or need to, 60# is plenty. The less # you pull, you will probably gain in smoothness, accuracy, confidence.

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Re: newbie looking for tips
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2012, 04:35:06 PM »
ive been going skookum archery puyallup range every thrursday for 3d shoot; i am comfortable with 20-60 yards 3d targets. At the flat range, im grouping 3-5 inches of grouping at 40 yards and tighter at 20 and 30. Not the best, but im comfortable with it so far, i know i need more practice. Would appreciette any input as far as arrow speed, draw wights and arrow weight etc. The bow is rated at 314 fps but its at 70 lbs and 30 inch draw; i read that each inch less is about 10 fps lost, and also now that my bow is at 63 lbs bottomed out, wont it lower my overall FPS?

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Re: newbie looking for tips
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2012, 05:27:00 PM »
Work on getting your basics right then worry about the small stuff like over all FPS, changes in weight of arrows. Get your self a great foundation of basics, don't form bad habits. A tricked out bow means nothing if you can't be efficient with it. Regardless what you think of the man, Ted nugent shoots iirc a 55-60# bow and kills everything with it. His wife shoots a 45-50# bow and kills everything he does just as well. Some people think "real men pull 70+#" which is false. Real men don't wound animals, real men are efficient with there weapon of choice.  Jm2c get lessons, DVDs, books, practice, practice, practice.

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Re: newbie looking for tips
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2012, 06:01:42 PM »
Next time you go shoot at skookum talk to Doug the pro shop owner he can help you get everything set up for hunting.

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Re: newbie looking for tips
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2012, 07:48:23 PM »
60 lbs is more than enough, my wife has had two pass throughs on deer with 45 lbs of draw.

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Re: newbie looking for tips
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2012, 07:54:54 PM »
One thing I have read is shot placement, shot placement, shot placement. Just because you can pull 70# doesn't mean you should or need to, 60# is plenty. The less # you pull, you will probably gain in smoothness, accuracy, confidence.

You'll be just fine with your set up!

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Re: newbie looking for tips
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2012, 11:28:50 AM »
I have a 27 1/2 draw and shoot 70lbs I don't have any issues.
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Re: newbie looking for tips
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2012, 12:04:28 PM »
60 is fine. Here is the reg for arrow weight:
b.   It is unlawful to hunt big game animals
with any arrow measuring less than 20
inches in length or weighing less than
6 grains per pound of draw weight
with a minimum arrow weight of 300 grains.

So, for your 60 lb pull, your arrow must be a minimum of 360 grains, including everything. If you're shooting good groups at 40 and 50 with whatever field tip you're using, use the same weight broadhead and make sure you tune your broadheads and arrow to hit the same spot your field tips hit. Your archery shop can help and so can YouTube. Happy hunting.
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Re: newbie looking for tips
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2012, 11:39:16 PM »
People tend to get too hung up on poundage. I shoot 60lbs and my arrow blew through both sides of my bull and stuck in the ground a couple inches last year. I have no desire to shoot anything over 60lbs anymore. With todays bows you don't need it. :twocents:
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Re: newbie looking for tips
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2012, 01:25:36 AM »
I'm having a hard time figuring out what your draw length has to do with the shop recommending 60# :dunno:

The squaw is an elk killing machine!  She has never shot more than 52# and her draw length is 24.5"  She has taken elk from 4 yards out to 56 yards.  She is the only one in our group that has never made a bad shot on an elk and has never shot a small bodied one.    Maybe that is her native blood or the fact she doesn't worry about speed or whether she is the ultimate barbarian studd.  She shoots what is comfortable within legal limits, has the ultimate in sharp broadheads and doesn't do stupid things like her husband.  The results are outstanding!
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Re: newbie looking for tips
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2012, 06:08:30 AM »
You should know your arrow weight, not calculated, but actually weighed.  You should be able  to go to your pro shop and shoot your set up through a chronograph if you dont have your own.  This info willbe helpful.   

You loose apprx 10fps for each inch of draw length below the IBO specs on your bow.  You loose apprx 10 fps for each 10lb drop below the ibo standard 70lb draw weight. 

The single most important thing in archery is how proficient you are with your equipment, not how heavy the draw is or how fast it shoots.  Use what you have until you can make your own decissions based on experience.  Dont fall into the trap of trying to buy your shot.

 


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