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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2012, 03:43:38 PM »
Soon as it opens.....

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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2012, 03:46:35 PM »
Japanese fleet badly damaged a year ago and this year we have a very unexpected large return of sockeye now wonder what the other returns will be like

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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2012, 01:03:04 PM »
 Numbers still look good but doesn't sound like the experts are too optimistic.

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Update from today's Seattle Times:

Lake Washington sockeye exceeds the preseason forecast with the third largest single-day count on Thursday
Posted by Mark Yuasa


All it took was 16 days of counting at the Ballard Locks for the sockeye numbers to exceed the preseason forecast 45,871.

Through Thursday, June 28, the inseason count is now up to 47,781, and the single-day count was the third largest so far this season at 5,080.

"The sockeye counts from the Locks continue to rise to levels well over recent historic returns," Bill Robinson a member of the Seattle Public Utilities Cedar River HCP Oversight Committee said in an email.

"If I do my calculations correctly, I think that the peak of the return occurs around (July 17) with fairly solid returns through mid-August," Robinson said. "Followed by a dropoff into September."

"We can all hope for a continuation of the strong returns for the next several weeks," Robinson said. "While these numbers won't lead to a fishery, they will "seed" both the Cedar River ecosystem and the north Lake Washington, which will perhaps lead to future harvestable numbers of sockeye returning."

Many are wondering if this is just some anomaly, but there have been only two days of counting where the sockeye numbered 687 (June 13) and 532 (June 14). Since then the counts have stayed above 1,515 and the biggest single-day count was 6,421 on June 20.

Usually peak counts vary each year, but occurs between July 7 and July 15.

The single-day counts are: 1,633 fish on June 12; 687 on June 13; 532 on June 14; 2,183 on June 15; 3,062 on June 16; 1,724 on June 17; 1,515 on June 18; 2,241 on June 19; 6,421 on June 20; 3,548 on June 21; 1,839 on June 22; 1,883 on June 23; 4,100 on June 24; 5,823 on June 25; 1,780 on June 26; 3,730 on June 27; and 5,080 on June 28.

Those monitoring the returns say the majority of sockeye are made up of bigger wild five-year-old sockeye. When these fish were in the freshwater environment they encountered decent water conditions and no major flooding, which probably led to a stronger survival rate. Add to that good ocean conditions when they migrated out.

During this same time frame in 2006, 44,168 sockeye had returned, but the bulk ended up surging in quite later than normal. That year, 470,000 sockeye allowed an 18-day sport fishery.

Other fisheries occurred in 1996, 2000, 2002 and 2004.

Anything can happen at this point, but one person who has been keeping an eye on the Lake Washington sockeye stock for many years says by extrapolating from the 2007, 2009, 2010 and 2011 runs would produce estimates for 2012 of 140,317, 90,435, 279,835 and 149,462, respectively.

He predicts the this summer's Lake Washington sockeye run would be between 100,000 and 150,000.

The big urban lake has an escapement goal of 350,000 sockeye before any fisheries are considered.

Some are saying the goal is much higher than needed, and should be more in the range of 150,000 to 200,000. Those close to the Lake Washington sockeye management issues are planning on meeting in the fall or early winter to discuss the goal figure and other topics related to the fish.

Since 2006, sockeye returns have dropped close to historic lows, and the run last summer ended up at about 43,000.

Back in 2009, the sockeye fry entered the lake in low numbers so this summer's adult return wasn't expected to be that good.

One positive factor is these fish could be reaping benefits from an excellent ocean and freshwater conditions.

The new permanent hatchery on the Upper Cedar River just below Landsburg Dam can produce more than 34-million fry, but last year it only got 25 percent of that figure from spawned adult sockeye. A run above 100,000 this summer could raise the bar in production number of spawning fish at the new facility.

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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2012, 07:38:40 PM »
The good part is that more will be laying eggs for future runs also.   :IBCOOL:

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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2012, 08:21:56 PM »
Thanks for the update of the run and the hathchery. It all is very positive!!!! :tup:
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2012, 04:16:47 PM »
Almost double what they predicted the entire run would be so far but I don't think it will hit the escapement goal.
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2012, 04:54:50 PM »
I know that our fisheries department MUST be responsible for these huge sockeye runs this year, but I do have an observation that I haven't seen mentioned concerning the returns this year.

I was a commercial fisherman in AK for 12 years, and many of the sockeye runs there were directly influenced by the unregulated catch of sockeye by the Japanese high seas gillnet fleet. 

This past year, there was a tsunami over in Japan that wiped out a huge portion of their high seas fleet.  (You may have heard about it...).  I'm SURE it's just a coincidence that we now have record runs of sockeye just about everywhere.   I know it must be a combination of our fantastic fisheries management, and other natural ocean conditions that I've read about on the WDFW site.  Just kind of makes me say hmmmm. 

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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2012, 05:58:37 PM »
 It was mentioned earlier.
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2012, 06:16:43 PM »
Almost double what they predicted the entire run would be so far but I don't think it will hit the escapement goal.

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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2012, 09:33:06 PM »
 They have not updated the counts since the 4th, hope its good news.
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2012, 09:46:02 PM »
Sockeye fishing was awesome up here in the Skagit...We are still catching fish ..I got 2 yesterday but I lost a couple plus missed more than I want to talk about... Those soft mouth little buggers ... They were hoping to hit the 40,000 by the 15th but I have not talked to the fish checker in a couple weeks but a couple weeks ago they were at around 25,000 ....Season closes on the 15th ...Sure helped out the local sporting goods stores and thats what should be going on all the time ...... :yeah: good luck with the lake fishing !! :tup:

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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2012, 09:48:20 PM »
Fingers still crossed here! There turnin blue thou!  :chuckle:
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2012, 10:01:45 PM »
If anybody need a partner I've never fished for em but it sounds like fun I have thurs.-sat off!
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2012, 04:08:42 PM »
Through the 11th.
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Re: Lake Washington Sockeye
« Reply #44 on: July 14, 2012, 04:21:34 PM »
On July 11th, 2006 the count was 140,723.  We're slightly behind that at the moment at 118,918.  Fingers crossed.
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