which arrows and broadheads

[BOWHUNTER45]

should I give my opinion ? Nah !!! I have shot Savoras and they always done well BUT it was 20 + years ago 

[RadSav]

I worked with Mark Mathieson in the mid-90's to design the Contender series of Savora heads.  They are a good bit different than those heads you used 20 years ago.  Even though the blades were always super sharp and "edge" durable no matter what year.  Just the older Swept-Wing's, Super-Flite's and Champion's didn't like carbon arrows or high speeds that much.  The Contender's blade profile is pretty much the same as Muzzy so plenty good for todays stuff. 

The ability of blades to stay sharp after penetrating the hair, hide and chest wall is what really separates the good from the bad.  You might have a steel ferrule, but if the blades are dull before they get to the good stuff you're still screwed.  A lot of the blades available these days are dull right out of the package.  Guess bowhunters have gotten so excited about the marketing minutia of ferrules and point design they have forgotten what actually kills!

We will be keeping the Contender blades and offering heads with the Contender profile, but thicker blade material.  This is the blade I field tested last year on my Dall and Caribou.  I am also in the process of adding a completely new blade design that will still have the famous Savora edge.  Probably going to name that one the "Crazy Larry" after my best friend and hunting partner.  Blade profiles will look very similar to the Muzzy MX series, but blade locking will be completely different.  Only broadhead that should come close to it in sharpness and edge durability would be WASP.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Radsav.. Like I have said time and time again it is almost impossible to destroy a wasp broad ... I have never seen one break yet or have a blade fall out ...They are just mean  I know you know what I am saying ....glad someone understands  What is now peesing me off is I wish I would of bought about 50 of them before they changed from a pack of 6 to a pack of 3 ...$ 39.OO FOR 6 NOW $ 39.00 FOR 3  Do you have any packs of 6 in 100 gr wasp boss ? For $ 39.00 bucks !

[RadSav]

Bowhunter45 - I think those days are as far gone as the $2.50 gallon of gas.  With the cost of materials, energy, penalties for hiring employees and a bunch more taxes we don't even know details about yet prices are bound to go even higher in the next few years.  Dick Maleski had almost zero overhead.  After his death and the sale of the manufacturing rights all that ended.  And the purchase of WASP was not cheap either.  They paid top dollar for a struggling company.  I had thought about purchasing it.  I put about five different business plans together and none of them showed enough return to go into that much debt.  The new guys are doing a nice job maintaining the quality standards.  And honestly those are almost the exact retail figures I was forcasting with in my rough plans.

That is one of the reasons I bought Savora with no business expectations at all. I just did not want to stop bowhunting and if I had to shoot that crap on todays market I would have.  It was a selfish decision to make sure myself and my hunting partners always had a great product to use.  Had it been a business decision based upon sound business practices we would never have made that commitment.

It's a tough thing to swallow when you see prices double when nothing but the packaging changes.  In the past three years we've seen a lot of that through the supply chain.  We have seen a 10% increase in our list pricing during that same time.  While our supply costs have increased more than 25% and business expenses more than that.  RAD is not alone as a lot of companies have been like us.  And we have zero debt and almost zero overhead.  Our household income has decreased by 50% even though we have let employees go and steamlined operations to the absolute minimum.  I still do not know how those very nice people at WASP are doing it.  Doubling prices or not.

Sorry for jacking your thread BANKWALKER.  To get back on that topic I would have to say your old set up sounded pretty good to me.  Especially since you should be starting to see the much improved Slick Trick blades starting to rotate onto store shelves by now.  Hard to make weight in Washington with the CE Maxima shafts, but they are as good as anything out there.  I got a couple dozen of the new model Blue Streaks in not long ago and they are as good as any all carbon arrow I have ever seen.  I'm almost exclusively Carbon Express these days.

[windygorge]

any beman arrow.  i shoot the bowhunter, used to shoot the hunter, and the elite.  don't like t :twocents:he hidden knock systems in the eastons, or whoever else may use them.   heard goldtips are sweet to, but not sure which one for hunting.  as for broadheads.  get ones with replaceable razors.  not self sharpening.  heard the shuttle t's dont fly well.  i prefer not to use cut on contact for elk so i stay away entirely.   i shoot thunderheads, and innerloc, depending on my mood.   if you have never seen the makeup of the innerloc, you need to.  they ARE the toughest replaceable blade broadhead ever made.  they have a through ferrel that locks the blades in place.  indestructible.  next time your in you local shop, ask them to see how each broadhead is made.  better to see and touch, rather than go online.  or try your local archery club.   

[bloodhound]

i shoot beaman ics bow hunters, and just bought a dozen ics hunters. i dont believe the arrows make that big a difference. i buy the cheapest arrows beaman makes almost and i out shoot a lot of people easily. i do have to say i had some easton axis arrows and they seem to break a lot easier then the beamans. so i wont buy them again. my ole man shoots carbon express and they to shoot fine as well, if only he shot as well as the arrows can lol

[Angus]

I shoot Beman camo hunter arrows and I guess I'm a little old school, been shooting Thunderhead 125's since 93', they've never failed me so I haven't found a reason to try anything else.

[huntnphool]

Beeman ics camo hunter arrows 340s and 125 muzzy's never let me down

+1 except I'm using 85gr. Thunderheads.

[thorne27]

Beaman ICS hunter with  Montecs.  They work for me. 

[Battle Ready]

I shoot the Carbon Express Maxima Kevlar Hunter..and SAVORA.ummm...prototype. I havent shot anything with it yet but some foam..but I know broadheads..and this is king.

[AKBowman]

Goldtips w/ 3 blade muzzy's

Goldtip XT Hunters 7595's tipped with 100gr 3 blade Muzzy's

[AKBowman]

I've been wanting to switch from the 3 blade Muzzy's to the Muzzy Phantom but need to dispose of the Muzzy's I have before buying more. 

[colockumelk]

Radsav what is the difference between the new Slick Trick blades and the old ones. U might show my ignorance here but the old blades seemed to he pretty awesome. So if the new blades are even better those things are gonna be super scary.

[et1702]

I shoot the Carbon Express Maxima Kevlar Hunter..and SAVORA.ummm...prototype. I havent shot anything with it yet but some foam..but I know broadheads..and this is king.

Alright Radsav, how'd this guy get a Savora prototype...you holding out on the rest of us...LOL

ET

[whackmaster]

I shot a deer with the savora prototype works very good and fast