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Does your bird dog chase deer?
« on: August 03, 2012, 08:54:31 AM »
This morning we had a deer wander into our fenced back yard. We usually let the dogs out in the morning while my wife feeds the horse and the dogs just hang around. My English Setter caught a scent of the deer and immediately went crazy and started chasing down the deer. The deer spooked and ran into the fence on several occasions and the dog managed to trap it in a corner and actually get it down. The deer was thrashing and bawling and appeared that the setter was holding it down and chewing on it. What a racket! Neighbors probably didn't appreciate hearing the ruckus at 6:00 am..  :yike:

Any of you guys have bird dogs that chase deer? When my dog is in the field, I have an e-collar on him so I can stop him from chasing but I had never seen him this aggressive.
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Re: Does your bird dog chase deer?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2012, 09:01:37 AM »
It is a hunting dog after all.  :twocents:  I tend to have The shock collar on my mutt most of the time when i'm out and aobut too... It must have been a young one if it got caught up in the fence.
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Re: Does your bird dog chase deer?
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2012, 09:09:01 AM »
The field is not the dogs domain, his yard and your backyard is. If you saw a stranger approach you in a mall you wouldn't act aggressive towards that person, if that same stranger walked into your house, you would act the same as the dog, you know...trapping him, biting and chewing on him. 
Both my dogs will run down anything in the field if I will let them, a strong voice and/or e-collar takes care of the times I do not wish this to happen.  Now, If something like a cat and rabbit or random birds lights in the backyard, it's game on.
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Re: Does your bird dog chase deer?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2012, 09:15:18 AM »
Before collars I had a GSP that was so hard to break on deer that I sent him to a friend down in pheasant country, he became a great pheasant and duck dog in the more open country.

I am blessed with deer everywhere and every walk is a training session.  Deer have become a non issue.  I'm pretty sure that if I didn't stay on him all the time he would revert back to a deer chaser, he is a hunting machine and if it's huntable he wants to do it.  He's hell on stray cats and was my coyote hunting partner till our state in it's overzealouse control of hunting made it against the law for him to come on a coyote hunt with me.

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After the first shot the rest are just noise.

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Re: Does your bird dog chase deer?
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2012, 09:57:56 AM »
Great pic AWS! That's one dedicated bird dog.  :chuckle:

Interesting thing about dog breeds. My Australian Shepherd will chase a lot of critters but any time I've seen him do it, he just gets up to the animal and then barks and acts like he wants to herd it. He never really attacks it. The setter, on the other hand, will take down anything that moves in the woods. He will lock on-point on a bird that is setting but if the bird so much as twitches a muscle he is on it. Gotta get to him quick if I shoot one. Never could get him broke of that habit.
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Re: Does your bird dog chase deer?
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2012, 10:06:04 AM »
The field is not the dogs domain, his yard and your backyard is. If you saw a stranger approach you in a mall you wouldn't act aggressive towards that person, if that same stranger walked into your house, you would act the same as the dog, you know...trapping him, biting and chewing on him. 
Both my dogs will run down anything in the field if I will let them, a strong voice and/or e-collar takes care of the times I do not wish this to happen.  Now, If something like a cat and rabbit or random birds lights in the backyard, it's game on.
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I did have GSP that thought it was his duty to chase deer out of the county, I believe that was the inspiration behind my first ecollar purchase.

we were hunting grouse on weyehauser land once and he took off after something, an hour later I found him limping down the logging road with a couple cracked rips and pretty good cut/gouge on his shoulder. the vet said an elk must have mule kicked him. :chuckle:
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Re: Does your bird dog chase deer?
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2012, 10:10:02 AM »
My Doberman has a serious issue chasing deer. In fact last year he chased one out on the road that got hit. He's caught a couple fawns as well. Now anytime I take him out he's gotta be collared.

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Re: Does your bird dog chase deer?
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2012, 10:26:42 AM »
Trash break that dog.  I would probably still be beating that dogs ass.

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Re: Does your bird dog chase deer?
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2012, 10:53:10 AM »
Tried that, hasn't worked yet.

4wheelers and dirt bikes are the worst. He gets possessed. Tried locking him in the house once and he tore up every blind that we had. He's the sweetest dog, but moving things are trouble.

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Re: Does your bird dog chase deer?
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2012, 12:21:49 PM »
I broke my hounds from deer (as soon as I say that they'll trash out on me!!)  with the shock collar and plenty of consistancy.  We get deer in the yard all the time and the dogs will walk right by them without looking their way.  Be consistant and keep after them.  Chasing any off game can be troublesome, especially if they actually catch it!

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Re: Does your bird dog chase deer?
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2012, 10:42:29 AM »
NOPE!  Trash breaking is the one time IMO that you can, and should light up a dog with an e-collar.  My trainer try's to get young dogs into deer so they chase at a young age.  It only takes once, or maybe twice and they stop chasing.  A dog that chases can ruin a hunt really quick or worse, get the dog killed if it starts crossing roads. 

However.  If the deer jumped into your dogs back yard, then all bets are off.  That's a lot different situation.

 


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