2pt minimum

[FLIZZ]

There are plenty of "tanks" running around.  By instituting a 2pt minimum, you're ensuring those "tanks" get shot while the immature bucks and bucks with bad genetics get to breed

If they're tanks they're going to be smart enough to stay alive unless they are earned by people who get out of their trucks and actually hunt. Road hunters would probably give up all together. And even if a 2pt bangs a doe, in 5 or 6 years that baby will be a tank regardless of genetics.

I can tell you've put a lot of thought, research, and science into this "2pt minimum everywhere" line of thought

hahahah YES. countless hours and research have gone into this. no but Seriously though its just a thought fellas. The 636 unit in Mason county is 2pt minimum and there's a lot of hogs taken out of there. Therefor my thinking can't be that wild.

Mason for archery is any deer

I'm fairly sure 636 is a 2pt minimum regardless of archery, I may be wrong. But I'm talking modern fire anyways. There ya go! keep archery any deer and make mod fire 2 pt minimum. that way lazy spike killers have to use bows! Now that's a good idea!

[FLIZZ]

Also, why would you want to kill a spike when there are "plenty of big deer out there" ? 

[FLIZZ]

Also, why would you want to kill a spike when there are "plenty of big deer out there" ? 

Mason isn't even GMU 636 but, don't let your misinformation stop you from posting your opinion.
You completely missed the point of all of what was said.  Whatever.  keep dreaming of your magical point restrictions that don't need to be made.

I completely understand what you meant. do what I want and let other people do what they want, I get it. like I've said, it's a thought, not like I'm going to write congress about it lol.

[DoubleJ]

This sounds like the 4pt minimum conversation from last year

[FLIZZ]

Also! I said 636 in mason county, which is the skok unit, 633 is mason lake. I believe that is accurate information sir.

[DoubleJ]

Sorry for being jumpy.  633 is the "Mason" unit and the unit I thought you were talking about.  Some of 636 is in Mason county.  633 is not Mason Lake, it's just Mason.  Confusion on both our parts it looks like.

[FLIZZ]

Sorry for being jumpy.  633 is the "Mason" unit and the unit I thought you were talking about.  Some of 636 is in Mason county.  633 is not Mason Lake, it's just Mason.  Confusion on both our parts it looks like.

We'll call it even! and if i never talk to you again, good luck this coming season! We've had our friendly debate.

[DoubleJ]

Sorry for being jumpy.  633 is the "Mason" unit and the unit I thought you were talking about.  Some of 636 is in Mason county.  633 is not Mason Lake, it's just Mason.  Confusion on both our parts it looks like.

We'll call it even! and if i never talk to you again, good luck this coming season! We've had our friendly debate.

If you stick around here, I'm sure we will talk again.  Good luck on your season.  I still hate your idea though

[FLIZZ]

Sorry for being jumpy.  633 is the "Mason" unit and the unit I thought you were talking about.  Some of 636 is in Mason county.  633 is not Mason Lake, it's just Mason.  Confusion on both our parts it looks like.

Well I still hate you. I'm kiddin.

We'll call it even! and if i never talk to you again, good luck this coming season! We've had our friendly debate.

If you stick around here, I'm sure we will talk again.  Good luck on your season.  I still hate your idea though

[bobcat]

I've never been a big fan of point restrictions, but I do think a 2 point minimum for blacktail deer would be a good thing, and would really help the numbers rebound. The spikes just don't know anything yet and they often don't have enough sense to get out of the clearcuts before the sun comes up.

But before a minimum point restriction, I'd rather see doe seasons eliminated, except in units in which they truly are over carrying capacity.

[Tbar]

Why stop at apr's just go to a statewide draw. I just think we have plenty of regulations and wouldn't support more.

[MooseStock]

I was always of the same opinion that I thought a 2 pt minimum would be great in the Western Wash blacktail areas. It makes sense because we all know how dumb those spikes can be and it seems that when a deer gets to be at least a 2 pt they have a much better chance and we would have more of the bigger bucks around. I did have it explained to me from a WDFW person that it wouldn't make any sense in my areas (653/454) because the tribes wouldn't go with the program and they would get shot up anyway. For you salmon fishermen something like how we have to throw back the Native Chinook and Coho and the tribes have the chance to just scoop them up anyway in a net with no restrictions. Don't mean to make this native american bashing but it is what it is and there will be no changes to the system. Because in my opinion Blacktails are the hardest deer to trophy in because they are so noctural when they get big I think we should just leave things as they are. In my heart with all being equal I would Love the 2pt restriction but the way things are just doesn't make it common sense. I just have a 2 pt restriction on myself and approach it in that way. Just my opinion.........Les

[trophyhunt]

I think 2 pt. minimum would be a great thing, especially if youth hunters were allowed to shoot spikes with a general tag still. 

People probably thought the world was going to come to an end when they made it 3 pt. minimum for elk, and what do you know, most of those spikes it saves get shot as 3 or 4 points now. Bigger bodies, bigger racks, same success rate more less.  It has been a great success in my opinion, and I don't see how the 2 pt. minimum for deer would be any different.

I agree, youths should still be able to hunt them with regular tag.

[throttlejocky20]

The whole west coast of oregon is 2pt min and the buck to doe ratio is awsome. I understand why people wouldent want it but how would the hunting on the east side be if it was any buck. Its just my opinion but I would be all for it 100%!

[Wenatcheejay]

I've never been a big fan of point restrictions, but I do think a 2 point minimum for blacktail deer would be a good thing, and would really help the numbers rebound. The spikes just don't know anything yet and they often don't have enough sense to get out of the clearcuts before the sun comes up.

But before a minimum point restriction, I'd rather see doe seasons eliminated, except in units in which they truly are over carrying capacity.

Why not just go permit only. That's the goal. 

No does, no spikes, (all gates locked, permit only.) Sounds like a King County wet dream.