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Wedge Pack Update
« on: September 04, 2012, 11:30:13 PM »
This just in today from WDFW:

http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/wedge/

Washington Wolf Packs: Wedge

September 4, 2012

State wildlife managers said today they are resuming their effort to lethally remove up to four wolves from a pack that has repeatedly preyed on livestock in the Wedge region of Northeast Washington.

The most recent confirmed attacks on livestock occurred last week, when wolves from the Wedge pack injured two calves from the Diamond M ranch in northern Stevens County.  Those depredations brought to 10 the number of injured and dead livestock from the Diamond M herd since July.  The latest investigation was conducted by staff from the Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) and the Stevens County Sheriff’s Office, and the results were reviewed and confirmed by independent wildlife biologists.

The two calves were removed from the range on August 30, one day after WDFW Director Phil Anderson temporarily suspended a 12-day effort to kill wolves from the pack to break its pattern of predation.  Department staff killed a non-breeding member of the pack on August 7 but did not kill any wolves between August 18 and 29.

WDFW staff will return on Wednesday morning, Sept. 5, to the remote Wedge region, which is located just south of the Canadian border and between the Columbia and Kettle rivers.

WDFW management efforts reflect the provisions of the state Wolf Conservation and Management Plan, adopted in December 2011 by the Fish and Wildlife Commission.  The plan’s primary goal is to restore the wolf population in Washington, but it authorizes lethal removal of wolves that repeatedly attack livestock when:

There is documentation that livestock have clearly been killed by wolves;
Non-lethal means have failed to resolve the wolf-livestock conflict;
Livestock depredations are likely to continue; and
There is no evidence of intentional feeding or unnatural attraction by the livestock owner.
All of those criteria have been met in the case involving the Wedge pack wolves, Anderson said.
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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2012, 11:35:58 PM »
If only they could create a system where the state didn't have to employ people and spend to go kill problem animals, and they could actually charge a fee to citizens to go out and kill animals as needed...

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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, 11:40:52 PM »
I agree... why not allow the ranchers to take care of their own business.
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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2012, 05:55:57 AM »
Use to be this was a transist pack and wasn't considered, Now it's the biggest thorn in the side.



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Wedge Pack cattle-killing pattern apparently continues; two more carcasses found today
Posted by Rich
Sept. 5, 2012 2:37 p.m.  •  0 comments
 
ENDANGERED SPECIES — The Wedge Pack's appetite for livestock may spell doom for four or more of the dozen or so wolves roaming between Canada and northern Stevens County.

Two more Diamond M Ranch cattle were confirmed today.

That could bring the number of wolf depredations on the ranch's herd to 12 the cattle between the Columbia and Kettle rivers since mid July.

Washington Fish and Wildlife Department officers are in the area trying to trap and collar another wolf in the pack  — one is already collared to help them monitor the pack's movements.  They're also seeking to kill wolves and disperse the pack.

Department Director Phil Anderson gave an update on the Wedge Pack issue a few hours ago.

Anderson's update is detailed here in a blog post by Andy Walgamott of Northwest Sportsman Magazine.

« Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 05:58:36 AM by Ridgeratt »

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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2012, 04:39:38 PM »
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I can't seem to get the maps to print.

http://www.nwsportsmanmag.com/2012/09/05/the-daily-howler-9-5-2012-edition/

The Daily Howler, 9-5-2012 Edition
By Andy Walgamott, on September 5th, 2012
1) Two more dead calves were discovered today in the Wedge of Northeast Washington.

WDFW Director Phil Anderson told the Fish & Wildlife Commission just after the beginning of its 1 p.m. meeting that one had been found "an hour ago" and characterized it as a "fresh kill" while the other appeared three to four days old.

An investigation is now ongoing, but he said "We may well get to 12 (wolf depredations) before the week is out."

At least nine calves and one cow have been injured or killed by wolves so far in extreme northern Stevens County this summer, according to WDFW. Another calf was killed by a cougar.

Anderson also told the citizen panel that the agency has since resumed its wolf hunt and has moved its marksmen to a private-land pasture where today's carcasses were found in hopes of taking out up to four of the pack's members.

He said that they would try to avoid the alpha female, but ...

"We need to get that pack cut down" in terms of numbers.

There are an estimated 12 Wedge wolves.

2) The Wedge pup captured and ear-tagged in mid-July was identified as the dead wolf that was found in August, Anderson revealed.

3) He also explained that GPS data from the Wedge alpha male showed that the pack has moved its rendezvous points. Whether that was due to pressure from the state's hunt or the McIrvins of the Diamond M Ranch moving their cattle was unclear, but WDFW has also been in close contact with the operator -- three times just today -- sending them locational information on the wolf, Anderson said.

3.5) There's been little information about the agency's actual wolf hunt, but the director provided a glimpse or two into it today.

"They got close, saw wolves, but didn't have clear targets," he said about the 12-day search for the pack across the back half of last month.

As for trapping efforts, he says the pack appears to have become "trapwise."

"We've even seen where they've pawed around the traps," he said.

4) While he's also got that Oh-yeah-whole-Oregon-governor-wants-to-move-Columbia-gillnetters-into-Astoria-bays-most-ricki-tick deal on his plate, Anderson said wolves are the "area I'm spending most of my time on."

5) His presentation included a series of Power Point slides (available here) which he narrated, including information that WDFW has trapped in nine of the 12 areas of confirmed of suspected wolf activity around the state, has collars on seven wolves and on at least one member of five of the eight confirmed packs.

He also said that Colville tribal biologists had captured another wolf on their reservation quite recently. The tribes, which have not been too forthcoming with info on their pack(s), collared at least two other animals this spring.


THIS MAP COMBINING GPS DATA FROM A GPS-COLLARED WOLF AND USFS GRAZING ALLOTMENTS SHOWS THAT AT LEAST ON THE U.S. SIDE, THE WEDGE PACK HAS NEARLY 100 PERCENT OVERLAP WITH PUBLIC LAND CATTLE RANGE. (WDFW)

6) They grudgingly accept that last Thursday's injuries to two calves were caused by Canis lupus, but a pair of wolf advocacy groups still say members of the Wedge Pack shouldn't be killed.

In a joint press release before Anderson's latest depredation news, Center for Biological Diversity and Cascadia Wildlands instead say that nonlethal means and rancher compensation should be used to resolve wolf-livestock conflicts on the Diamond M and Colville National Forest grazing allotments it runs cattle on.

They say that only minimal preventative measures were taken -- disputed by WDFW.


POWERPOINT IMAGES FROM TODAY'S PRESENTATION TO THE FISH & WILDLIFE COMMISSION BY DIRECTOR PHIL ANDERSON. (WDFW)

The organizations also cast aspersions on the agency's wolf work:

"Regardless of whether or not it is ultimately determined that wolves clearly killed livestock in the Wedge area, the experience to date has indicated that the department needs to take some time to get its ducks in row," Cascadia's Bob Ferris said in a press release. "Endangered species such as wolves need to be managed with clear rules and solid procedures by people adequately trained in this process, and we hope to see that in the future."

Wolves in that area are no longer on the Federal endangered species list but remain state listed as such.

While the agency has built a compelling case based on a list of wolf-livestock incidents here since 2007, wolf advocates have leaned on some outside experts' skeptical opinions on the evidence WDFW has gathered at the scenes of this summer's series of depredations.

7) Anderson acknowledged to commissioners that there have been differences of opinion on what's happened to the McIrvin's calves.

"Frankly, that's one of the areas we've been challenged because some (of the depredations) are not clear cut," he said.

He outlined the four-stage review the agency goes through to label each incident either confirmed, probable, unknown/other or not predation, from the gathering of evidence by game wardens and state wildlife biologists to internal review to external opinions and then a final determination by field staffers.

He said that review by the three recognized federal wolf experts adds a lot of credibility to WDFW's work, noting that "we don't necessarily have to agree with them all the time."

But he also put a lot of stock in Carter Niemeyer's statements on photos of one of last Thursday's injured calves that that was the "smoking gun" image the retired federal wolf manager and depredation-investigation pioneer has been looking for in the case of the Wedge's attacks.

8] Commissioner Gary Douvia and Anderson both warned that depredation news could get worse before it gets better.

"September, October is when we just begin to find out what's going on up there," said Douvia, who lives not too far south down Highway 395 from the Wedge.

Speaking to the fall cattle roundup, Douvia said, "I dread the count. It looks to be significant."

That remains to be seen, however.

"We won't really know what level of losses operators have had until they bring their cattle off the allotments," Anderson said.

Commissioner Chuck Perry asked Anderson if field staffers had been finding any other big game carcasses, indicating the Wedge Pack feeding on natural prey.

The director said if they had, he hadn't heard about it.

Opinions vary on how relatively game-rich or -poor the mountainous, forested Wedge is.

9) And finally, tip of the cap to blogger/author Beckie Elgin.

While the usual suspects again howl past each other on WDFW's latest Facebook wolf post, Elgin, of "Wolves and Writing," had the minerals to call up and talk to the McIrvins about what's happening to their stock.

She posted her interview and her thoughts.

Asked if he had anything to say to pro wolf folks, Bill McIrvin responded:

“I don’t know if I can convey my feelings very good, but…our cattle are a part of our livelihood, they’re a part of our life. All we’ve ever done is grown up caring for cattle day and night so its really not about money to us, its about our life. So when we see them killed for sport…its pretty tough for us to deal with, its like its happening to a family member. And I guess we kind of feel like we’re in a bit of a war here and we’re the only side that has something at stake–we’re losing our livelihood and the people who are fighting with us are still drawing the same wage.”
10) The end.

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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2012, 05:01:06 PM »
That's a pretty good sized range for 1 month in that country.

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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2012, 05:22:40 PM »
We could probably calculate the losses to the cattlemen, they have a long history without wolves for comparison.  We will probably need to file a freedom of information act request to see the costs WDFW has rang up.  Not to mention the feds.  Collaring, monitoring, wolf group talks, sherriff costs, on/off hunts, consultants, depradation costs, court cases, think this could get spendy?

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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2012, 07:39:47 PM »
That's a pretty good sized range for 1 month in that country.

That could be the estimated range of the pack but it looks like the area that they were in was just the southern corner. I also think that they don't show the true western edge. So my guess is some one just drew some lines on the map.

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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2012, 07:58:16 PM »
not sure if they crossed the river, I think it's a natural boundary but if they aren't met by a pack on the Ferry CO side they'll migrate across or at least disperse across.
 
They were on the mountainside across from I beach yesterday

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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2012, 08:03:56 PM »
not sure if they crossed the river, I think it's a natural boundary but if they aren't met by a pack on the Ferry CO side they'll migrate across or at least disperse across.
 
They were on the mountainside across from I beach yesterday

Don't think they cross the river but thats way south of the lines on the map.  I also think that they are sort of combining the bunch from the east side of the unit as well.
I guess the best part is they have finally admited to them.

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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2012, 08:12:19 PM »
hmm
 
maybe I should retract my comments on that thread you made about the rules of paper.  I think it is a great idea  :chuckle:

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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2012, 08:20:15 PM »
no leave them!!

Besides I do think you know some one who held a Camp Perry record for a long time! My guess is he would have also played in the rules.   :twocents:

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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2012, 12:49:19 AM »
I think every wolf in that pack needs shot as soon as possible to prevent any of the individuals from teaching other nearby wolves that "beef is better".

The Kettle River isn't a boundary, many stretches freeze over during winter, I have shot coyotes on the ice crossing the Kettle. During late summer and fall low water periods it's easy for any animal to simply walk across.

Just last winter a local trapper got trail cam photos of a wolf just west of Barstow, that is only a few miles from the cattle killing wolves in the wedge. Wolves have also been sighted near Curlew, so it would be very easy for any of the 'wedge" wolves to pack up with other wolves and teach them that "beef is better".

We have trail cam photos of wolves on both sides of the unit last fall/winter. I still believe there are additional wolves living on the east side of the wedge that could be influenced by these cattle killers.
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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2012, 07:40:12 AM »
From the front page of this mornings Seattle Times:

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019088062_wolves07m.html

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Re: Wedge Pack Update
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2012, 09:30:05 AM »
From the front page of this mornings Seattle Times:

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019088062_wolves07m.html


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