Lies and threats

[mainer78]

So my wifes aunt has property in a good hunting area.. Its a drive so i stay there on weekends.  I know certian areas are State owned and certian ones are Private.  So friends of my wifes dad told me where im hunting is ALL PRIVATE and that if i hunt there something bad might happen (threat).  Any how i have certian military skills that will help me out on the latter, but the threat, and lies about the area is bs... Its mostly State owned property (local records show this)  and the areas that they say are private are mostly state as well.  I dont want to tresspass, and wont, but for them to threaten me, and lie is unnacceptable.  I know they have been hunting in that area for a long time, but state land is open for everyone, and i will hunt it.  Just kinda messed up when they are supposed to be friends of the family.  Another question, am i allowed to cross private property to get to state land if there is no access?  Thanks guys!!!   

[wannabhntr]

I don't believe that you can legally cross with out permission from the land owner. I'm 90% sure that if you shoot something on public land and it ends up dying on private they have to grant you permission to recover it. If not, call the local law enforcement.

[xXLojackXx]

Private property is private property. You need permission to step foot on it, further more to hunt it. And if you shoot an animal and it falls on private property, it become the land owners animal, unless they let you recover it. A friend of mine shot a deer and watched it run down a hill and fall literally on the other side of a road that was private property. The landowner came out on his atv and told my friend that he can't retrieve his buck and that it was now his. So my friend called the local authorities, who came out and told him legally he can't step on the Other mans property to grab his buck (that was 8' off the road that it crossed). All you can do if they won't let you recover your animal is call it in and see if the owner of the property has a tag for that animal. So if you're close to private property, I'd lose a shoulder off any animal and not give it a chance to fall on private land, you never know how the owners will respond.

[Knocker of rocks]

Even the best lawyers can get confused when it comes to easements and prescriptive easements.  But best to stay off of private land

[mainer78]

Roger on that.  I thought so... I can access most of the land because its state, there is some good land that i would have to walk way around to get to and is state.... Thanks... I just know these a$$ monkeys will still say that its private.  I printed out maps and all so if the try to bs me again, ill have proof.  I think they keep saying that its all private because there are only a handful of hunters that hunt the area, and were new!!!!  Thanks all

[6x6in6]

No, you cannot cross your Aunt's adjacent property owned by someone else to access State Land.  If your Aunt has some form of ingress/egress easement to cross the neighbors land to access the State Land, then it might be possible depending on the recorded easement language.

If your Aunt's land abuts State Land and she has given you permission, have a great time. 

[mainer78]

Thanks guy i got the access thing figured out... Im more upset about these guy threating me and lying to me about access,

[buckhorn2]

Happens all the time in Montana just spray a rock or tree with orange paint and you have private hunting on state land the guides do it all the time so out of staters think there on private land.

[DoubleJ]

There's a GMU in the state that has only one sizeable piece of public land on it and even so it's only about 700 acres.  One road in and out.  I have seen where someone, I don't know who but a local guy does, has marked the road private property.  The signs he puts up have been taken down plenty of times before and they keep going up.  There is so much private property in that GMU and very little public that it's hard to tell if you're trespassing or not when *censored*es like that do things like that.

[Atroxus]

If you are going to hunt the area despite the threats I would recommend reporting it to the authorities, that way if they do attempt to follow through on them, you have it documented for your self-defense case should it come to that. 

disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, and nothing in this should be taken as legal advice. if you want that you should contact a lawyer.

[mainer78]

The thing is that every time i go up there hunting, i worry about what might happen to my vehicle, or myself.  I used to take my kids, but dont.  Unfortunately theses A$$ monkeys are friends of my father-in-law, but since he lives with them he stays out of it... I have put in the time the last 3 years learning the boundries, and finding the animals, and came close last year, and now i feel as if i have a good chance, i dont want to have to deal with the old timer drama... Its damn state land and i have the right to hunt it.....   Just dont want to have any conflict...

[Atroxus]

The thing is that every time i go up there hunting, i worry about what might happen to my vehicle, or myself.  I used to take my kids, but dont.  Unfortunately theses A$$ monkeys are friends of my father-in-law, but since he lives with them he stays out of it... I have put in the time the last 3 years learning the boundries, and finding the animals, and came close last year, and now i feel as if i have a good chance, i dont want to have to deal with the old timer drama... Its damn state land and i have the right to hunt it.....   Just dont want to have any conflict...

I hate to say it, but if you want to avoid conflict you may be better off just hunting somewhere else.  Especially if you consider the threat serious enough that you would not take your kids with you. As parents we have a responsibility not just to keep our kids safe, but to keep ourselves safe long enough to raise them up right.

[JimmyHoffa]

Any way you can be the assertive one here?  Call them out on their threats and deal with it?  They will be bullies if they think they you are a push over.  Might be bad advice, so see what others say. 

[predatorpro]

be careful on who actually has the hunting rights to property...there is alot of areas that according to county maps and such will say owned by state of washington but is 80%a  huge wheatfield that is farmed...if its being leased or something the farmer leasing it probly has the rights to who can hunt on it....

[mainer78]

Oh i will be assertive, and will not take my boys there until this is all settled... Unfortunatley I have put 3 years into this area, and its ready to start producing i think.... All the areas around where i live are pumpkin patches, and i only take my kids there when i dont hike in the woods all that much... Plus they like shooting grouse and theres plenty around where i live...