New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards

[huntnphool]

 

[kentrek]

Jim the Plumber you put out impressive shots.  I admire your ability and would like to ask a elementary question.

I shoot more than the average guy and but far from the hobbyist.  When I see groups like this from you and lesser but still imprssive groups from other my question is wheher the rifle is under additional aid.  Meaning a lead sled, elctronic guidance, or other.  What I am saying is do you guys do something to take the human element out of the shot to guage the rifle more on the rifle accuracy with less human error?

In summary I feel I may have extremely accurate rifles but they are only as accurate as I can shoot them, accurate to my limitations so do you implement aids to take out the human element?

I can appreciate that you and others shoot so much you tune in your shooting skills as well but on such close groups at such a range I was just wondering if you enthusiasts use such aids.

Thanks.

..its all in the trigger finger..the gun isnt moving regardless of rest

really the only concern in my opinion is whether it was an unintentional group..but looking at the rifle im sure he has repeated this result to some extent..which is pretty freeekn good  congrats

[dscubame]

Jim the Plumber you put out impressive shots.  I admire your ability and would like to ask a elementary question.

I shoot more than the average guy and but far from the hobbyist.  When I see groups like this from you and lesser but still impressive groups from other my question is whether the rifle is under additional aid.  Meaning a lead sled, electronic guidance, or other.  What I am saying is do you guys do something to take the human element out of the shot to gage the rifle more on the rifle accuracy with less human error?

In summary I feel I may have extremely accurate rifles but they are only as accurate as I can shoot them, accurate to my limitations so do you implement aids to take out the human element?

I can appreciate that you and others shoot so much you tune in your shooting skills as well but on such close groups at such a range I was just wondering if you enthusiasts use such aids.

Thanks.

99% of my shooting is prone, Harris bi pod up front and a Redman mini bean bag under the butt stock.
 I don't use any 'electronic aids'.
 You really must have a solid foundation to start with. This is where classes can help. If you are doing it wrong, you can shoot thousands of rounds a year and still suck.
 Start with a rifle from a reputable builder and instructions from a reputable teacher. This lays the great foundation. The rest, then, is up to you.
 As an aside, I'd rather get kicked in the nuts than use a lead sled.

Thanks man.  This has been a long time question of mine that you have given me the opportunity to ask and then very generous in your response.  Appreciate the information and thank you.  Dan.

[Greenhorn]

Wow, awesome group!

[rbros]

Jim is right on.  Its all about fundamentals and a good platform.  All of my shooting and testing is done prone in the dirt with a bipod and rear bag.  Here is a 300yd group from my Edge a few years ago getting ready for hunting season.  Same rifle has shot several sub 4" groups at 1k from the same positioning.  Lead sleds hurt accuracy more than help.



15 shot group from 308 during breakin

[bearpaw]

impressive shooting.... 

[Bob33]

Very impressive.

Please don't take this wrong; it's a sincere question: is this type of group typical?

I've shot some very good groups at distance, but not every time. If you shot 10 groups with this combination, would there be much deviation in the group sizes?

Thank you.

[rbros]

If the shooter is up to it and can dope conditions, or has a no wind day, then things are pretty consistent.  Key word here being the shooter!

[Atroxus]

  That's crazy! I can't even get a group that tight at 100 yards consistently.

[thinkingman]

Very impressive.

Please don't take this wrong; it's a sincere question: is this type of group typical?

I've shot some very good groups at distance, but not every time. If you shot 10 groups with this combination, would there be much deviation in the group sizes?

Thank you.

Bingo!

I can post a picture of my 2" @ 100yds group out of my 45acp 1911 with iron sights.
Just don't ask me to do it again.

[Dan-o]

500 yards...............

I'm going to say no way is that group a fluke.

On a more positive note, I can shoot even tighter groups than that out to 500 yards.   My secret is that at that distance I shoot 1-shoot groups.   It keeps them very tight.

Thanks for haring.   I wish I had the rifle, but even with the rifle, I couldn't make 3-shot groups like that.     Very impressive.

[Fuzzy]

So JTP who taught you to shoot? Is it some one from these forums?