Speer Deep Curl 300 grains, very very impressive!

[Sabotloader]

I think the Harvester is the most popular for the 50 cal muzzlestuffers.

I really prefer the MMP, it has a different polymere formula that allows the sabot to fit the lands and the grooves + in cold weather it does not get as hard as does the Harvester, and for me it is easier to load.  On the other hand if you are shooting in really warm weather or with a very warm barrel the harvester does not get as soft with heat as does the MMP.

I have both Harvester and MMP's and rarely shoot the Harvester.

One thing I think you will find is that the availabilty of the Harvester in a local store is greater than the MMP.

 

[moosedrool]

Very impressive! How would I know which sabot is the best fit for my Knight Disc Extreme?

Which bullet/sabot combination have you been using?

I haven't used a bullet/ sabot combo yet. I've been toying with the idea for modern rifle season.

[Sabotloader]

Very impressive! How would I know which sabot is the best fit for my Knight Disc Extreme?

I did not pick up on the fact that you were in Oregon... and shooting conicals...

Since you indicate you are shooting a DISC Extreme... I would still suggest the HPH24 with a .452 bullet.  But locally you might only find Harvesters which will work also.

So if you were to move the regular rifle season with your DISC, what might you be hunting... Deer or Elk?

[moosedrool]

Very impressive! How would I know which sabot is the best fit for my Knight Disc Extreme?

I did not pick up on the fact that you were in Oregon... and shooting conicals...

Since you indicate you are shooting a DISC Extreme... I would still suggest the HPH24 with a .452 bullet.  But locally you might only find Harvesters which will work also.

So if you were to move the regular rifle season with your DISC, what might you be hunting... Deer or Elk?

Mike, it all depends on the tags I draw. This year, it was ML elk and modern rifle deer. Next year, hopefully both for ML season.

[Sabotloader]

Very impressive! How would I know which sabot is the best fit for my Knight Disc Extreme?

I did not pick up on the fact that you were in Oregon... and shooting conicals...

Since you indicate you are shooting a DISC Extreme... I would still suggest the HPH24 with a .452 bullet.  But locally you might only find Harvesters which will work also.

So if you were to move the regular rifle season with your DISC, what might you be hunting... Deer or Elk?

Mike, it all depends on the tags I draw. This year, it was ML elk and modern rifle deer. Next year, hopefully both for ML season.

Are you willing to venture out into the world of premium ($) bullets... not that the Deep Curl is not a very good bullet... But I have a bullet that you really might like for both animals - to 200+ yards.  But you would have to step up to a .458 (45-70) rifle bullets.

[moosedrool]

You must be talking about the Bloodline. I just don't know whether I want to spend the $$.

[colockumelk]

Moose drool. My Dad and brother bosh shoot Knight Bighorns and both use the MMP HPH-24 as do I with. T/C Black Diamond XTR. Both muzzle loaders take that sabot well.

[Sabotloader]

You must be talking about the Bloodline. I just don't know whether I want to spend the $$.

Good enough... the 300 Deep Curls will do the job very well for you.  It has a higher BC than most any other open nose bullet and its' construction makes it a very tough bullet.  Now you have to find some and some hph24 or regular harvester sabots...

This might give you an idea about what you are shooting...

[colockumelk]

And thanks again sabotloader. Your research and willingness to share your info and knowledge has helped us out alot.  And I'm sure has helped others as well. You have made this forum a much better place. 
I
 also forgot to mention that the lungs on all our elk looked like a modern rifle shot them. A ton of shock and the lungs were completely jelly.

[Sabotloader]

And thanks again sabotloader. Your research and willingness to share your info and knowledge has helped us out alot.  And I'm sure has helped others as well. You have made this forum a much better place. 

let's not carried away... I just like sharing cause a lot of folks have shared with me...

I also forgot to mention that the lungs on all our elk looked like a modern rifle shot them. A ton of shock and the lungs were completely jelly.

That is exactly what is suppose to happen with that bullet - bonded - controlled expansion ="s a lot of hydrostatic shock in the vitals...  I am really glad it worked that well for you...  I bet evem Speer would like to see those pictures and the results...

[colockumelk]

I actually have thought about sending them those pictures since they worked so well. 

[Sabotloader]

I actually have thought about sending them those pictures since they worked so well.

I certainly would send the information in - including your thoughts on the bullet...

Speer Bullets
2299 Snake River Avenue
Lewiston, ID 83501
speerexpert@atk.com

[colockumelk]

Will do thanks for the contact info.

[h2ofowlr]

What powder brand, type and amount were you using with these bullets.  I may give this a try as well.  I still have my late muzzy tag and time to give these a try.

[colockumelk]

I currently use 100g of pyrodex pellets. But as soon as I have used them all (I have 15 left) I am switching to 777 loose powder. I will stay with 100grains. Not sure if I will go with fff it ff.  Sabotloader which do you recommend. Triple F or Double F powder?