Barnes Trpple Shock X-Bullet? I'll stick with the Accubond, thank you.

[thinkingman]

Here's a picture of two .243, 85gr TSX's(45grs RL-19) recovered from a Mulie buck. One shot at 240 yards and the other 320 yards. One was right in the pocket and went through part of the off side leg and stopped just under the hide. The other broke the last rib going in and stopped just under the hide on the off side. The first shot was in the pocket and the second to the last rib. Bad run, the stars weren't aligned, call it what you will. I call it crap! I'll slum Accubonds any day over these FMJ's. Maybe it was because they were shot from a Tikka.

LimpHammer, you are a parody of yourself.
Maybe it was because they were shot from a Tikka.
One was right in the pocket

One answers the other.

The fact that you recovered them says two things:
Either someone can perform surgery while running alongside a panicked mulie or the animal got dead from copper poisoning.
And....They put 100% of their kinetic energy into the place it needed to go.
Either way, Barnes TSX are the closest thing to match-grade accuracy in a hunting bullet I know of and I trust solid copper bullets on heavy hide and bone more than I trust cup and core or bonded.
I bet when you shot your .600 Nitro on safari, you used monolithic bullets.

Hey Secureman! You didn't over think that, did ya?

Yeah, it's a blessing and a curse.
Having engineering and analytics in your DNA makes life a little tougher.
I try to overlook your posts....

[NWWA Hunter]

I use barnes and have incredible accuracy and dead animals. Every animal but one I have found the bullet perfectly mushroomed close to or in the hide on the other side. The other one exited. I have always felt they perform flawlessly. Maybe I'm just a better shot.

[luvtohnt]

It is unfortunate to hear about something like this. I think you should contact barnes about this in case there is an issue with that batch, maybe you could get a free batch to load and chage your mind. Not to mention after your frustration maybe you could save that same frustration from others if it is in fact a quality issue.

 I shot my elk last year with the tsx 165 gr out of my 300 mag. 278 yards double lung and not through the shoulder, the bull took 8 steps and went down. I couldn't find the bullet as it was a pass through, but both lungs were a pile a jello!! I do have some bullets I shot into sand for performance testing and they had a beautiful mushroomand almost perfect weight retention.

Brandon

[Biggerhammer]

Here's a picture of two .243, 85gr TSX's(45grs RL-19) recovered from a Mulie buck. One shot at 240 yards and the other 320 yards. One was right in the pocket and went through part of the off side leg and stopped just under the hide. The other broke the last rib going in and stopped just under the hide on the off side. The first shot was in the pocket and the second to the last rib. Bad run, the stars weren't aligned, call it what you will. I call it crap! I'll slum Accubonds any day over these FMJ's. Maybe it was because they were shot from a Tikka.

LimpHammer, you are a parody of yourself.
Maybe it was because they were shot from a Tikka.
One was right in the pocket

One answers the other.

The fact that you recovered them says two things:
Either someone can perform surgery while running alongside a panicked mulie or the animal got dead from copper poisoning.
And....They put 100% of their kinetic energy into the place it needed to go.
Either way, Barnes TSX are the closest thing to match-grade accuracy in a hunting bullet I know of and I trust solid copper bullets on heavy hide and bone more than I trust cup and core or bonded.
I bet when you shot your .600 Nitro on safari, you used monolithic bullets.

Hey Secureman! You didn't over think that, did ya?

Yeah, it's a blessing and a curse.
Having engineering and analytics in your DNA makes life a little tougher.
I try to overlook your posts....

Well try a little harder, I would think the college time would have instilled the slightest amount of discipline.

[high country]

Am I the only one who finds it interesting that a bullet was recovered with such little damage? I suspect serious yawing, lack of stabilization or else there is more to the story. Did the entrance look like a keyhole?

[mkcj]

If you have more of those loaded I would run a couple though a crono to see what muzzle velocity you have and see what kind of energy you had at 320 yards.

[Biggerhammer]

If one were to read the OP, they would see the powder charge listed. 45gr RL-19. The Nosler book lists 43.5 gr of RL-19 as max with a velocity of 3107 with a 24" bbl(.243 Win). Velocity isn't the issue. It's not a stabilization problem because the piece of crap Tikka shot them well. Sorry folks it's all on the bullets.

[Biggerhammer]

Am I the only one who finds it interesting that a bullet was recovered with such little damage? I suspect serious yawing, lack of stabilization or else there is more to the story. Did the entrance look like a keyhole?

No, nothing more to the story. A guy seriously in the know how at the reloading bench. A 12 year old boy driving a Tikka, taking his first deer. Two shots, the first to the boiler room, 80 yards or so later another to the last rib. The deer still keeps on going and managed to pull off a world class 300-350 yard, yard sale. Down some serious canyon country. Let's just say it was steep enough that several sheep witnessed the disaster(No joke) It began as a 3x4 and ended as a 2x3, where it finally came to rest in the rocks.

I would be willing to wager a pile of cash, that such a first round hit by a Accubond or Hornady Inter-Lock would have made the experience much better when it came to the young mans first deer.

[Eli346]

 Don't blame the Tikka, just the bullet!

[JohnVH]

Im still amazed at how poorly they performed, we use them exclusively and all are pass throughs and leave massive holes... Maybe they just dont work well in smaller rifles?

7mm TTSX bloodbath from 400yds, DRT, out of a tikka too yet 

[Biggerhammer]

Don't blame the Tikka, just the bullet!

I blamed a Tikka for a Burnt steak on the BBQ the other day?

[wsmnut]

Am I the only one who finds it interesting that a bullet was recovered with such little damage? I suspect serious yawing, lack of stabilization or else there is more to the story. Did the entrance look like a keyhole?

I agree with this.  The fact that they were recovered is very telling.  TSX that mushroom typically are pass throughs.  5 animals taken with them in our family, one recovered on the far side of an elk.  In all cases devastation lay in their wake.

     Just for comparison's sake, I had an accubomb pencil through a whitetail's chest from 150 yards.  400 yards of tracking later we found it.  Two .277 holes.
I decided to trade up to the Barnes.

     TSX like to go fast, and not have their noses damaged prior to impact.
For two to be recovered looking like that there is WAY more to this.

Wsmnut

[Emptyhanded]

I shot a spike at daylight monday morning with an 85 grain TSX outa my .243. He was about 80 yards away slightly quartered away. I shot him a few ribs back, the bullet angled forward and destroyed his heart. Only exit i could see were 2 or 3 small holes out his chest. At first look i though bone fragments... When i skinned him there was a baseball sized hole in his armpit area. Most of the offside shoulder was jelly. I have a hard time thinking it "fragmented" being all copper, but I really don't know what happened. he only ran 40 yards so i cant complain. Lost some meat but the deer died quick. The other 2 whitetails i have shot were DRT with half dollar sized exits. But this one from monday has me a bit confused. I'll keep shooting em for awhile and see what results they keep producing. 

[thinkingman]

I wouldn't exactly call FlaccidHammer's sample size meaningful, or indicative of the general experience.
As the link attached illustrates, not all Accubond users are all that enamored...And ReloadersNest is likely to have some pretty critical users.

As I said before, homogeneous construction leaves a lot less to go wrong and is likely to be more accurate.
http://www.reloadersnest.com/review_result.asp?Bullet=Nosler%20AccuBond

Here is the same thread for those lame, ineffective Barnes TSX....http://www.reloadersnest.com/review_result.asp?Bullet=Barnes TSX

[Biggerhammer]

Well DinkMan, I don't read about it. I do it! Here's a couple Accubonds I recovered from one shot stops on Mulies.

150gr Nosler Accubond recovered just under the hide on the off side of a mulie I shot at a little over 370 yards. With a over the book max charge from a 300 WSM.





260gr Accubond recovered from a mulie I shot at 560 yards with a .375 Ultra Magnum. Hit him in the chest facing head on. Traveled the length of his body and lodged just under the hide on the underside just above the pelvic bone.