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Quote from: pianoman9701 on October 23, 2012, 01:12:27 PMQuote from: Bean Counter on October 23, 2012, 01:06:56 PMQuote from: pianoman9701 on October 23, 2012, 12:49:07 PM....Maybe, they just got a report of a truck matching your description and the occupants threatened someone else with a handgun....Absent any other evidence, this would merely create "reasonable suspicion" but not "probable cause." Reasonable suspicion would give a LEO right to temporarily detain an individual to conduct an investigation with due diligence, but absent developing probable cause or obtaining your consent to search, I don't think a search of the trunk is legal. DO NOT CONSENT TO SMPD SEARCHESLike I said, BC, DFW LE has way more latitude with searches than any other LE in the state.Thats actually false. WDFW and "ex offico fish and wildlife officers" have the same search authority regarding fish and wildlife enforcement. Ex officio officers are city cops, county deputies, WSP troopers, and LE personnel from DNR, State Parks, NPS, USFS, USFWS, and NOAA/NMFS. When it comes to search authority WDFW and these personnel are on par.Where the "big" difference was came to stop authority NOT search authority. Up until this year only WDFW Officers could stop you to check for licenses, tags, game, etc, a non-WDFW officer could roll up on you and do a check, but only WDFW could actually order you to stop.HOWEVER this all changed this year. This year the WDFW asked the legislature to give ex officio officers the same stop authority as WDFW Officers. The legislature (almost unanimously) approved this. So as of Summer 2012 any law enforcement officer can stop you to do a check (just like WDFW) and any officer still can do the search.
Quote from: Bean Counter on October 23, 2012, 01:06:56 PMQuote from: pianoman9701 on October 23, 2012, 12:49:07 PM....Maybe, they just got a report of a truck matching your description and the occupants threatened someone else with a handgun....Absent any other evidence, this would merely create "reasonable suspicion" but not "probable cause." Reasonable suspicion would give a LEO right to temporarily detain an individual to conduct an investigation with due diligence, but absent developing probable cause or obtaining your consent to search, I don't think a search of the trunk is legal. DO NOT CONSENT TO SMPD SEARCHESLike I said, BC, DFW LE has way more latitude with searches than any other LE in the state.
Quote from: pianoman9701 on October 23, 2012, 12:49:07 PM....Maybe, they just got a report of a truck matching your description and the occupants threatened someone else with a handgun....Absent any other evidence, this would merely create "reasonable suspicion" but not "probable cause." Reasonable suspicion would give a LEO right to temporarily detain an individual to conduct an investigation with due diligence, but absent developing probable cause or obtaining your consent to search, I don't think a search of the trunk is legal. DO NOT CONSENT TO SMPD SEARCHES
....Maybe, they just got a report of a truck matching your description and the occupants threatened someone else with a handgun....
Most likely would get an Obstructing a public servant charge at the very least. Based on those type actions obstructing or hindering his/her ability to perfprm their job/duties.
Gotta love the general anti-law enforcement topics that seem to pop up every week or so...Always the same... a bunch of anti-gov's assuming that every LEO is violating their rights...
I'm reading through the comments here, and I must say... Is this the same bunch I had several conversations with a couple years back? Ya'll sound much more informed than last time.... I must say, I'm extremely proud of most of you... Amazing.
Quote from: clindsayrun on November 04, 2012, 11:04:19 AMGotta love the general anti-law enforcement topics that seem to pop up every week or so...Always the same... a bunch of anti-gov's assuming that every LEO is violating their rights... When you run into a POS gamie you'll understand why some want to vent. Being a houndsmen I've had a few bad run ins with them. Honestly id say gamie's are the biggest joke of any LEO, 50% dont know half the laws they inforce
Interesting perspectives. I've never had a bad experience with a gamie. I had one question me extra long one day when I told him we hadn't had any luck and he saw my hands covered with blood. Once I explained and showed him it was from working through some blackberries, he was fine.I guess there can be bad any-occupation out there. Carpenters, cops, hunters, doctors. etc. In this case and with my past experience only on which to judge, I don't believe it's the rule. I believe it's the exception.
Quote from: Houndhunter on November 26, 2012, 11:51:48 PMQuote from: clindsayrun on November 04, 2012, 11:04:19 AMGotta love the general anti-law enforcement topics that seem to pop up every week or so...Always the same... a bunch of anti-gov's assuming that every LEO is violating their rights... When you run into a POS gamie you'll understand why some want to vent. Being a houndsmen I've had a few bad run ins with them. Honestly id say gamie's are the biggest joke of any LEO, 50% dont know half the laws they inforceComing from the guy who cant even spell ENFORCE
Quote from: bigtex on November 27, 2012, 01:14:50 PMQuote from: Houndhunter on November 26, 2012, 11:51:48 PMQuote from: clindsayrun on November 04, 2012, 11:04:19 AMGotta love the general anti-law enforcement topics that seem to pop up every week or so...Always the same... a bunch of anti-gov's assuming that every LEO is violating their rights... When you run into a POS gamie you'll understand why some want to vent. Being a houndsmen I've had a few bad run ins with them. Honestly id say gamie's are the biggest joke of any LEO, 50% dont know half the laws they inforceComing from the guy who cant even spell ENFORCE Being rebuked by someone who can't spell can't
