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WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« on: November 08, 2012, 05:03:32 PM »
WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach

OLYMPIA - The director of the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) today announced plans to explore regulatory options for banning the harvest of giant Pacific octopuses off a popular Seattle beach and possibly elsewhere in Puget Sound.

WDFW Director Phil Anderson said the department will consider new rules to preserve the population of giant Pacific octopuses at Seacrest Park near Alki Point, where a 19-year-old scuba diver provoked a public outcry after legally harvesting one of the charismatic animals last week.

Under current state rules, divers can harvest one giant Pacific octopus per day in most areas of Puget Sound.

"The harvesting of this animal has resulted in a strong, negative reaction from the public and the dive community," Anderson said. "We believe this area may merit additional restrictions to enhance the traditional uses of this popular beach."

Anderson announced the department's plans at the start of a two-day public meeting of the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission, a nine-member governing body that has final authority over most new fishing rules.

With nearly two-dozen scuba divers in attendance, Anderson outlined several possible options to preserve giant Pacific octopuses, ranging from designating Seacrest Park as a marine protected area to prohibiting hunting the animals anywhere in the state.

Anderson said WDFW will hold public meetings this winter to hear Washingtonians' thoughts on those options.

All of the divers who spoke on the issue at the commission meeting supported new regulations prohibiting the harvest of octopuses at Seacrest Park and other popular scuba diving areas.

Scott Lundy, a member of the Washington Scuba Alliance, presented the commission with a petition signed by 5,000 divers supporting a ban on killing octopuses at Seacrest Park.

Dylan Mayer, the 19-year-old diver from Seattle who started the controversy, also told the commission he supports a ban on killing octopuses at the park.

"I didn't know they were so beloved, or I wouldn't have done it," he said.

While many of the divers called for an immediate ban at Seacrest Park, Anderson said Washington law requires state agencies to follow an established public process for developing new regulations.

"If the conservation of a species or the public welfare is at stake, we can take emergency action," he said. "But the killing of the giant Pacific octopus last week appears to be an isolated case at Seacrest Park, and the species appears to be healthy throughout Puget Sound."

He added, however, that the department may still consider taking emergency action if another octopus is taken from the area.

In other business, the commission heard public comments on management options proposed by representatives from Washington and Oregon to restructure salmon and sturgeon fisheries on the lower Columbia River.

Since early September, the two states have been working to develop a joint plan for phasing out the use of gillnets by non-tribal fishers in the mainstem lower Columbia River by 2016, as initially proposed by Oregon Gov. John Kitzhaber.

Members of a bi-state working group are scheduled to reach agreement later this month on a final plan for consideration by both states' fish and wildlife commissions. Additional information is available on WDFW's website at http://goo.gl/MCG5q .

On Friday (Nov. 9), the Washington commission will hold a public hearing on proposed new options for allocating the catch of spot shrimp between recreational and commercial fisheries.  It will also hear public comments on proposed changes in state rules for compensating ranchers and other landowners who lose livestock to predatory carnivores.

The commission is scheduled to take action on both issues in set for Dec. 14-15. An agenda this month's meeting is available on the commission's website at http://goo.gl/HtqhI .
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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2012, 05:06:01 PM »
Who didn't see this coming?

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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2012, 05:10:01 PM »
I hope fishing and hunting groups get inolved to stop this. What's next? Banning hunting whenever someone's panties are in a bunch?




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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 05:11:28 PM »
Already has happened....Baiting bear and hound hunting bear & cats along with leghold/body gripping traps!
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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 05:12:44 PM »
Hunters that act unethically can cause harm to all hunters.
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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 05:14:13 PM »
I hope fishing and hunting groups get inolved to stop this. What's next? Banning hunting whenever someone's panties are in a bunch?

 :yeah:

WFW?

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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2012, 05:23:40 PM »
I hope fishing and hunting groups get inolved to stop this. What's next? Banning hunting whenever someone's panties are in a bunch?

 :yeah:

WFW?

Not really...maybe.  Hopefully larger groups with clout will get involved. This will be another win for the anti's.




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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2012, 05:39:04 PM »
The more, the merrier, I'm sure. WFW's presence can only be a plus.

My state game and fish, oh sorry--department of "wildlife" is battling against the Maobama administration in federal court for attempting to block the use of lead ammo in certain areas.  :IBCOOL:

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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2012, 06:00:50 PM »
i dont see this as good thing, so a few people got all bent out of shape over a legal harvest and DFW considers banning hunting of the particular animal. that is a huge slipperly slope, what next DFW banning waterfowl hunting because the birders get upset that someone killed a few ducks  :dunno: not a good precedent to set

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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2012, 06:49:14 PM »
This is what happens when emotion trumps scientific models for sustainable harvest of resources. The people on this site who pushed the "bad ethics" of this harvest have jeopardized our hunting/fishingprivileges elsewhere. This is a bad thing. Now, every time someone has an emotional attachment to legal game, there is the chance that our privileges to pursue it will be revoked.
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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2012, 07:01:07 PM »
The mission of WDFW is "To preserve, protect and perpetuate fish, wildlife and ecosystems while providing sustainable fish and wildlife recreational and commercial opportunities."

It's a falacy to believe that hunters and fishermen are their only shareholders.

Once again, the poor choices and unethical behavior of a few will have a disproportionately negative impact on many.
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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2012, 07:02:29 PM »
WDFW has a history of knee jerk reactions.  This is nothing new. 

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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2012, 07:09:46 PM »
I wouldn't necessarily classify responding to a petition with 5,000 signatures, and intense negative and widespread media coverage as kneejerk. :twocents:
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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2012, 07:34:22 PM »
Just saying that WDFW is quick to flop in the face of any public criticism and has not stood up for the hunting/fishing community in this state.
They did this with the archery elk in the north end, even while their own personnel were on site at the time of the incident and could have remedied the situation with a little traffic control.  Instead they closed the area to general hunting. 
WDFW has been detrimental to hunting on several fronts.  Regarding bear and hound hunting, when specifically asked to comment on the initiatives they declined.  Said that it was not their place to have an opinion.  I'm not sure what the biologists are for in this state? 
They did this on the trapping initiative.  They kept quiet and let the huge urban voting block think that it only effected ranchers on the dry side that wanted to remove coyotes, not the moles in our yards.

I do believe that responding to media pressure and a petition like this is the definition of a knee jerk reaction. 

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Re: WDFW considers ban on hunting octopuses off Seattle beach
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2012, 10:44:15 PM »
Just saying that WDFW is quick to flop in the face of any public criticism and has not stood up for the hunting/fishing community in this state.
They did this with the archery elk in the north end, even while their own personnel were on site at the time of the incident and could have remedied the situation with a little traffic control.  Instead they closed the area to general hunting. 
WDFW has been detrimental to hunting on several fronts.  Regarding bear and hound hunting, when specifically asked to comment on the initiatives they declined.  Said that it was not their place to have an opinion.  I'm not sure what the biologists are for in this state? 
They did this on the trapping initiative.  They kept quiet and let the huge urban voting block think that it only effected ranchers on the dry side that wanted to remove coyotes, not the moles in our yards.

I do believe that responding to media pressure and a petition like this is the definition of a knee jerk reaction.

I agree 100%
Some of the radio personalities who first covered the story were unaware that this kid took it legit. Most were under the impression that he poached it. Im sure many of the folks who signed the petition were thinking it was poached as well. I think WDFW should have some backbone on this one.
 Heck, I am suprised that they did not make octopus hunting a draw only with a points option after that one.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2012, 10:55:24 PM by steeleywhopper »
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