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dry blacktail does. An observation and questions
« on: December 09, 2012, 08:13:40 AM »
Talking with my son this morning, we're having a hard time recalling anytime over the past few years that we've seen an obvious blacktail doe without fawns.  Is fawn recruitment higher with blacktails than mulies or whitetail?  The other question that was, is it as important for a blacktail fawn to have it's mother through it's first winter as it is for a mulie or whitetail fawn since our winters here tend to be quite a bit more mild.

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Re: dry blacktail does. An observation and questions
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2012, 08:28:05 AM »
Ive never worried about any elk or deer having young of the year when deciding to harvest. The fawn/calf is plenty capable of taking care of its self by this point. They arent nursing anymore.

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Re: dry blacktail does. An observation and questions
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2012, 10:15:00 AM »
I won't shoot a doe with a fawn. Just seems wrong i guess. But if it's a yearling then i might take the bigger doe.

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Re: dry blacktail does. An observation and questions
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2012, 10:25:15 AM »
 :yeah: personal preference on my part. Fawns should be capable of fending for themselves by the time season comes around. Exception might be a late fawn.
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Re: dry blacktail does. An observation and questions
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 12:48:01 PM »
If a fawn BT can't survive on it's own now it won't make it through this winter regaurdless....

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Re: dry blacktail does. An observation and questions
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 06:25:18 PM »
consider this;
maybe that lone doe had a fawn, lost to predator(s).

Wood cutting unit 460 hancock snoqualmie last weekend. Cut a decent load in the Tundra and went scouting on foot. While on the middle ridge of a 4yr old clearcut over 1/4 mile from truck, out busts a doe and fawn from the timber line below me about 100 yards. And they were moving like Mach One, jumping over blow down timber 3' off the ground.
I'd been stationary for minutes glassing, wind was in my face so I didn't think it was me that spooked them that badly.

out popped not one but 2 cougars in the edge of small timber where the doe/fawn came running out. One followed the deer's trail and the other one went up the hill as if to cut off the escaping deer.
What a Nat'l Geographic moment, got my heart racing!

Darn, cougar tag this year and no rifle with me. Too far for my 41 magnum S&W.

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Re: dry blacktail does. An observation and questions
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 06:42:18 PM »
I can't believe you went in there without a rifle. There are a fair amount of cougars in the Hancock. Too bad no camera
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Re: dry blacktail does. An observation and questions
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2012, 08:26:55 PM »
I can't believe you went in there without a rifle. There are a fair amount of cougars in the Hancock. Too bad no camera

happened so darn quick, I wouldn't had the reaction to film. Even had Iphone in my pocket. Still was pretty cool to watch for a couple seconds.
yeah, if I go wood cutting and then scouting there again this weekend; the rifle will be with me for sure.

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Re: dry blacktail does. An observation and questions
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2012, 09:05:43 AM »
consider this;
maybe that lone doe had a fawn, lost to predator(s).


Point was, I can't ever remember a lone blacktail doe.

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Re: dry blacktail does. An observation and questions
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2012, 10:56:11 AM »
Most of the lone blacktail does I have seen hang out with the bucks throughout the year. Does with fawns seem to be tolerant of does with fawns and nothing else.... :twocents:
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