collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: .357 mag s.d. round recommendation?  (Read 3361 times)

Offline jackelope

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+29)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 50316
  • Location: Duvall, WA
  • Groups: jackelope
.357 mag s.d. round recommendation?
« on: September 06, 2008, 09:28:47 PM »
after recently aquiring a  new to me 4" ruger speed six in 357 mag, i am starting to look into what ammo is good for home defense and for carrying in the woods.  i really don't know much about  pistol ammo having only owned  a couple pistols...i will soon be aquiring another .357, a colt trooper special, that belonged to my grandfather....so i am all ears.
thanks in advance.
JB

:fire.:

" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield

My posts, opinions and statements do not represent those of this forum

Offline Bofire

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2007
  • Posts: 5524
  • Location: Yelm
  • Harley YAR YAR YAR!
Re: .357 mag s.d. round recommendation?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2008, 08:48:12 AM »
I cant remember the names of the guys that did it, but a study was done on actual shootings a few years ago. The 357 125 grain hollow points kicked but on humans. I'd go to 158 minimum for woods load, or even teh 180 grain.
Carl
When the chips are down..... the buffalo is empty!!

I do not shop at Amazon

Offline jdb

  • the illustious potentate
  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2007
  • Posts: 3797
  • Location: selah
Re: .357 mag s.d. round recommendation?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2008, 11:28:14 AM »
evan marshall and ed sanow were the fellows who did the testing basiclly they compiled all the data nation wide on shootings and found that the .125 grain 357 had more 1 shot stops statiscly than any other round it was like a 96% chance of a one shot stop. there were also some studies done where they shot these goats that had a very similar lung capacity to humans and there findings were very similar. that being said if your looking for a single loading for both sd and general woods use I think Id opt for more bullet wieght. depending on your intended use, if you want to maybe kill a deer more wieght is better if your just thinking as back up or as defence against rogue animals then the 125 is probably fine. JB
nuke the gray whales for jesus!

Offline DOUBLELUNG

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 5837
  • Location: Wenatchee
Re: .357 mag s.d. round recommendation?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2008, 01:56:15 PM »
If you can still get them, Glaser safety slugs are hard to beat.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

Offline DeKuma

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2007
  • Posts: 2016
  • Location: Burlington, WA
Re: .357 mag s.d. round recommendation?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2008, 02:50:30 PM »
I agree on the report stated above.
Masaad Ayoob had also written a great book that covered most all handgun rounds and agreed that the 125 is the best performing SD round in the 357.
I have read several reports lately that detracted from the Safety Slug due ti its frangebility.  It would often fail to penetrate deep enough for stopping power before it "fragmented" to lethal capacity.  I have used them in the past and agree with their philosophy, especially in urban environs where stray bullets can cause collateral damages.  The are great concepts for apartment/homes where the risk of penetrating to another room are a reality.  I am not sure I feel safe with them if my life depended on it for sure.  I would need to do further research.

For the woods, I prefer the heavier solids/hardcast for stopping power.  I have used them exclusively in my 44 mag. (at least before I sold it on Friday  :'( )  They are a sure thing as far as weight retention and power.  I have used them on bear, elk and deer with no issues.  I am looking to find something similar for my 45 acp as well.  Currently use 200gr JHP (Hornandy TAP) for SD, and 240gr FMJ (roundball) for woods work.
- Scott

Offline jdb

  • the illustious potentate
  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2007
  • Posts: 3797
  • Location: selah
Re: .357 mag s.d. round recommendation?
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2008, 06:07:43 PM »
You must have really wanted something bad to sell that sbh what a sweet gun and near perfect for most things a man needs a handgun for I cant hardly imagine a better gun for everyday woods carry. I have been thinking of a similar perchase only in .45 colt. JB
nuke the gray whales for jesus!

Offline DeKuma

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2007
  • Posts: 2016
  • Location: Burlington, WA
Re: .357 mag s.d. round recommendation?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2008, 07:13:21 PM »
IT was really hard to sell!  I really want to get a good coyote/deer gun for the wife, and I can use my Kimber 45 for a back-up for now.  Would like to eventually get a SW629 Mountain gun for a hunting back-up.  Loved my Ruger though.

Have seen some pretty good deals on Blackhawk 357 out there, so I may pick one up as a stop-gap.

I am having sellers remorse, that is for sure.

sorry  :jacked:
- Scott

Offline jackelope

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+29)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 50316
  • Location: Duvall, WA
  • Groups: jackelope
Re: .357 mag s.d. round recommendation?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2008, 07:24:26 PM »
well...the gun came with about 200 rounds of 158 jhp's...maybe i'll just roll with them till they're gone.
:fire.:

" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield

My posts, opinions and statements do not represent those of this forum

Slenk

  • Guest
Re: .357 mag s.d. round recommendation?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2008, 07:39:50 PM »
I have been using 158 gr. hard cast with gas checks for years . Works good for my needs. 9.5 gr. Blue Dot.
Slenk

Offline Blacklab

  • Site Sponsor
  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 8158
Re: .357 mag s.d. round recommendation?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2008, 07:56:11 PM »
Ruger GP100 horns xtp/hp 145gr 12.4 B dot.
Hey! I'm not a complete idiot I have parts missing. Though sometimes I wonder.

If you want to make God laugh tell him your plans.

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Archery elk gear, 2025. by pianoman9701
[Today at 04:58:27 PM]


Oregon spring bear by kodiak06
[Today at 04:40:38 PM]


Tree stand for Western Washingtn by kodiak06
[Today at 04:37:01 PM]


AUCTION: SE Idaho DIY Deer or Deer/Elk Hunt by Dan-o
[Today at 03:46:34 PM]


Pocket Carry by BKMFR
[Today at 03:34:12 PM]


Utah cow elk hunt by kselkhunter
[Today at 02:54:14 PM]


A lonely Job... by Loup Loup
[Today at 01:15:11 PM]


Range finders & Angle Compensation by Fidelk
[Today at 11:58:48 AM]


Willapa Hills 1 Bear by hunter399
[Today at 10:55:29 AM]


Bearpaw Outfitters Annual July 4th Hunt Sale by bearpaw
[Today at 08:40:03 AM]


KODIAK06 2025 trail cam and personal pics thread by Boss .300 winmag
[Today at 07:53:52 AM]


Yard bucks by Boss .300 winmag
[Yesterday at 11:20:39 PM]


Yard babies by Feathernfurr
[Yesterday at 10:04:54 PM]


Seeking recommendations on a new scope by coachg
[Yesterday at 08:10:21 PM]


Sauk Unit Youth Elk Tips by high_hunter
[Yesterday at 08:06:05 PM]


Jupiter Mountain Rayonier Permit- 621 Bull Tag by HntnFsh
[Yesterday at 07:58:22 PM]


MOVED: Seekins Element 7PRC for sale by Bob33
[Yesterday at 06:57:10 PM]


3 pintails by metlhead
[Yesterday at 04:44:03 PM]


1993 Merc issues getting up on plane by Happy Gilmore
[Yesterday at 04:37:55 PM]


Unit 364 Archery Tag by buglebuster
[Yesterday at 12:16:59 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal