Master elk hunt in Yakima

[dvolmer]

Once again I say  GET RID OF THE MASTER HUNTER PROGRAM!!!!!!!!  This thread just shows what you all want.  If you want special treatment and extra shots at game, then go marry a native.  If you do truly want to give back to the program and game animals join RMEF, Mule Deer foundation, Pheasants forever, Ducks Unlimited, or the many other groups doing extra with out the extra tags hanging over your heads.  It makes me want to puke hearing all of your "Master Hunters" woes.  Just leads to un-ethical practices like this thread is full of.  What a Joke!

[splitshot]

i agree with you dvolmer.  well said.  i still cant figure out why the mh gets an extra elk tag and we regulars dont.  it would generate lots more money.  and dont be believing mh archery guys always wear orange.  they are not above breaking the law.  mike w

[Crunchy]

Once again I say  GET RID OF THE MASTER HUNTER PROGRAM!!!!!!!!  This thread just shows what you all want.  If you want special treatment and extra shots at game, then go marry a native.  If you do truly want to give back to the program and game animals join RMEF, Mule Deer foundation, Pheasants forever, Ducks Unlimited, or the many other groups doing extra with out the extra tags hanging over your heads.  It makes me want to puke hearing all of your "Master Hunters" woes.  Just leads to un-ethical practices like this thread is full of.  What a Joke!

I don't see any issue with the MH.  Some find negative in everything.  Is it perfect, no. But not everything is.  I went through the program and yes I apply for special permits, but the program is available to everyone.  If you chose not to do it, then quit whining about people that do.

[Skyvalhunter]

  Just shows how much ignorance there is out there

[fishNhunt]

Once again I say  GET RID OF THE MASTER HUNTER PROGRAM!!!!!!!!  This thread just shows what you all want.  If you want special treatment and extra shots at game, then go marry a native.  If you do truly want to give back to the program and game animals join RMEF, Mule Deer foundation, Pheasants forever, Ducks Unlimited, or the many other groups doing extra with out the extra tags hanging over your heads.  It makes me want to puke hearing all of your "Master Hunters" woes.  Just leads to un-ethical practices like this thread is full of.  What a Joke!

I don't see any issue with the MH.  Some find negative in everything.  Is it perfect, no. But not everything is.  I went through the program and yes I apply for special permits, but the program is available to everyone.  If you chose not to do it, then quit whining about people that do.

I agree....everyone has the chance to get into the program if they wanted too.  I think its the ones that can't pass the test that are always whining about it.  I always hear about how everyone in the program shouldn't get extra tags.  Its not that way, most of the hunt require you to use your general elk tag and that is to only shot a cow.  There are now MH hunts for bulls.  Yes there are a couple draws you can put in for that would allow you to buy a 2nd tag if wanted.  But its not like everyone get to shoot 2 elk every year like some make it out to be.

[cschu02]

Obviously you have pissed off hunters who dont know how to hunt. The ones doing the complaining probably drive the loop dont see an elk and leave thinking they just got scammed. I guarantee they wont get out and walk the hidden draws to find elk. This property has produced a lot of game for my family. Where else can a guy drive 25 minutes from home and harvest a 400 pound animal for this price. I spent over 1500.00 (not guided) on a mule deer hunt in Montana drove for 14 hours and came back with a spindly 4point. So this is a no brainer. I also recomended this property to two others who filled their tags first day and wonder why they even bothered hunting the early season running around all over the place trying to find an elk, wasting gas and wearing out their toyo mts. on the firing center. To the hunters I helped pack their game out.... thankyou, it was a blast! see you again next year. 100% fill rate for this MH 

[dvolmer]

Check out new thread on MH on the around the campfire forum.  MH will soon be a thing of the past from what I hear from my personal gamey buddies and It couldn't be soon enough.

[Skyvalhunter]

 

[danderson]

 I understand the complexities of managing the herd, we all understand that fencing off winter range creates conditions were elk are pushed into wintering grounds that are not traditional for numbers of wintering animals, Yet I find myself questioning how the program was created in the first place, in a purely management standpoint it would make more sense to just issue more cow tags, split between the user groups, Rifle, Muzzleloader ,archery, youth, senior,and  disabled , first I believe that the process is flawed, there should have never been a Master Hunter program,( we )  meaning the general public, are capable of harvesting the excess deer and elk that become problem animals or reach the careering capacity of a section of land, I don't buy into the notion that master hunters are superior in there ways, they have good intentions but given all the violations that have been reported from so-called masters one can only conclude that the number of conflict's, related to the program would be equal to the number of conflicts from the general public, I know of two incidents in the 3911  unit , one  were a Master hunter shot a 6 point bull, come to find out he couldn't see well enough to identify what he was shooting at , he turned himself in and lost his certification, another master hunter had admitted to harvesting multable elk in the 3911 unit and letting his buddies tag the animals, he alo lost his certification, we are at a turning point in the program, cater to a small user group, or spread opportunity for harvesting a elk to the rest of the hunting public, the youth hunters of this state deserve at minimum to be recognized as  vital user  group, not  to mention the future of hunting in this state, More youth and  senior cow tags, is whats needed, dont give me that BS about master hunters being the answer to management issues, landowners with documented crop loss or property damage need to be compensated for there losses, with landowner elk tags, or a monitory valve equivalent.

[splitshot]

to danderson.  that was very well said,  i admire your ability to say what i would like to have said.  i totally agree with you on your views.  lets hear it for the 65+ muzzy elk hunters, just joking.  thanks,  mike w

[boneaddict]

My gut tells me I am in disagreement with damage tags.   I'll probably get fried over that, but I am the one that built my house in the middle of the wildlifes yard.   Its my responsibility to deal with it, not ask for a handout.   You wanted to live in the middle of elk country, well then.......   

[Bob33]

My gut tells me I am in disagreement with damage tags.   I'll probably get fried over that, but I am the one that built my house in the middle of the wildlifes yard.   Its my responsibility to deal with it, not ask for a handout.   You wanted to live in the middle of elk country, well then.......

The problem is that landowners can make a claim against the state for monetary damages caused by wildlife. The landowner either gets money or damage tags.  I agree that it shouldn't be that way.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-36-110

[boneaddict]

I guess thats why I dislike lawyers and our legal system.  There is little logic involved.

[DaveBTS]

7 pages and still no success pics. This is a hunting forum.

[Bob33]

Based on the first six I can understand a reluctance to post a picture.