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ban on assault weapons
« on: December 16, 2012, 04:04:54 AM »
I just sent out letters to all my state reps and senators so I hope others will do the same.
the activist links on top of this thread are great. I emplore those that don't wan't to lose the right to buy a ar 15 mac 90 don't let what happend in conn be the only voice our legislaters hear.
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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2012, 06:26:51 AM »
not for nothing but check out some history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2012, 07:37:52 AM »
The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles..
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You can insert the word gun for rifle and it applies to all firearms
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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2012, 05:08:15 PM »
If every teacher in the school would of had a shoulder holster with a gun there would have been no kids killed.  Very simple
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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2012, 08:13:01 PM »
Quote from: Jingles on December 16, 2012, 07:37:52 AM
The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles..
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You can insert the word gun for rifle and it applies to all firearms

I love this quote. It is not the inanimate object that is evil. It is the person that holds it. The whole debate is moot in my mind.

I saw an interview with an ex FBI agent who was asked, "can this be stopped in the future?" his response was a simple no. Why? Because people make bad decisions. Even if a gun is not involved. Or they forget to lock up their firearms. Or hide the car keys.

I for one do not buy weapons. I buy firearms. I do not own an assault weapon. I own a semiautomatic firearm. Look it up.

If our rights are taken away, all I can say is welcome to South Canada........sad....
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2012, 08:31:44 PM »
You know, the columbine incident took place during the assault  weapons ban, and they actually had a assault weapon with them.  A tec 9.  Something specifically banned in the law.  Apparently they didn't read it otherwise I'm sure they wouldn't have brought it along.
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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2012, 10:32:40 PM »
Quote from: elkinrutdrivemenuts on December 17, 2012, 08:31:44 PM
You know, the columbine incident took place during the assault  weapons ban, and they actually had a assault weapon with them.  A tec 9.  Something specifically banned in the law.  Apparently they didn't read it otherwise I'm sure they wouldn't have brought it along.
Ya I kind of thought that was when it happened. I beleive several did in fact happen during that period.
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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2012, 11:22:48 PM »
Quote from: elkinrutdrivemenuts on December 17, 2012, 08:31:44 PM
they actually had a assault weapon with them.  A tec 9. 

Not an assualt weapon..............does not meet the real definition.

This is part of the problem. The general public and the media do not know the real definition. You are not helping by spreading the untruth.

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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2012, 11:28:49 PM »
your missing the forest for the trees

They are defined as such in the 1994 AWB - which would serve as a blueprint for a future AWB bill.


What makes them "assault" weapons?   Cosmetic features, not functions.


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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2012, 08:11:57 AM »
Quote from: SpringerFan on December 17, 2012, 11:22:48 PM
Quote from: elkinrutdrivemenuts on December 17, 2012, 08:31:44 PM
they actually had a assault weapon with them.  A tec 9. 

Not an assualt weapon..............does not meet the real definition.

This is part of the problem. The general public and the media do not know the real definition. You are not helping by spreading the untruth.

You were missing my point completely.  See Kfhunter's post.
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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2012, 08:21:03 AM »
Quote from: KFhunter on December 17, 2012, 11:28:49 PM
your missing the forest for the trees

They are defined as such in the 1994 AWB - which would serve as a blueprint for a future AWB bill.


What makes them "assault" weapons?   Cosmetic features, not functions.

and by accepting their definitions and caving into what THEY want the public to believe is an assault weapon, we are bowing at their feet, saying yes master, whatever you wish master.....  :bash: :bash: :bash:
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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2012, 08:28:43 AM »
they know the diff just don't want to be botherd by it. I figured back in lima beans when two guys on our crew were talking ar-15's or mac -90's things would be comming.
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2012, 08:50:18 AM »
The point is that something was used in a violent crime that was illegal under that law.  So if that ban didn't stop crazies from getting their hands on illegal firearms and using them for the purpose of harming others, what will a new ban do?
Not if the title of assault weapon was appropriate.   
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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2012, 09:09:28 AM »
 If someone beats someone else to death with a baseball bat is the bat now considered a assault weapon?

 Its going to be interesting to see the list of proposed weapons banned, I'm wondering if a couple of my handguns are going to be on the list.
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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2012, 09:36:55 AM »
Cant help but notice that most of these mass shootings occur in govt buildings, and buildings, areas that have been designated "weapon free zones". Never seen a public vote for a WFZ.
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2012, 09:41:28 AM »
Quote from: washelkhunter on December 18, 2012, 09:36:55 AM
Cant help but notice that most of these mass shootings occur in govt buildings, and buildings, areas that have been designated "weapon free zones". Never seen a public vote for a WFZ.
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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2012, 09:16:19 PM »
The point of a ban is that it is beginning. They found a gun people fear on appearance. The real ban will be to move to ban all guns that function in semi. auto.
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2012, 09:39:06 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2012, 09:50:31 PM »
The Kennedy nephew killed the neighbor girl with a Golf Club.  Never heard a call to ban those.
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2012, 01:29:41 AM »
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Re: ban on assault weapons
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2012, 01:45:45 AM »
We should start another one as well that says to take away the Gun free Zones.
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2012, 02:07:59 AM »
text form an email i got. Know its fear mongering but.............
Obama will be actively supporting a new "Assault Weapons" Ban and ending ALL private firearms sales by requiring a “background check” government permission slip.

And sadly, the national media is more than willing to help him get his wish . . .

MSNBC anchors are calling for outright gun "confiscation!"
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