Over/Under advice please?

[CP]

Just picked up a CZ ultralight upland. For the money nice gun. 26 inch barrels

 

[jackelope]

Miroku built for Charles Daly too.

I think a lot of what you pay for in a Browning or Beretta over a CZ is long term durability too. By that I mean it will hold up and lock up tight after 10k rounds. Something you don't necessarily need in a field gun. A much higher commodity in a sporting gun. You can drop some huge money in a sporting gun.

And SKB who make a great ou for the money

Have owned  many shotguns and as mentioned fit most important. I put an adjustable stock on some of my shotguns. A bit heavy for humping up and down hills for chukar and Huns

Just picked up a CZ ultralight upland. For the money nice gun. 26 inch barrels

As I get older seem to prefer 28 inch barrel


Join  a local trap and skeet club and ask to try as many as possible to shoot.

I've got 2 SKB built Ithaca OU's. love them too. My favorite is my Ithaca SKB model 500 20 gauge. Sweet shooter.

[wildweeds]

HA HA I'm rolling on the floor,You'll never seen an investment return of profit on a used O/U of a mass production run ,It's got to be one off or custom and even then it is a stretch,if your looking at it as a way to make money or supplement your retirement in 40 years your in la la land ,If you don't believe me try and take one back where you bought it and have only shot 2 boxes through it and find that you don't like it,your going to get 800 bucks trade in on a 1300 dollar gun you just bought.Just buy what you want and use it for what it was made for.I have a CZ,A couple brownings(one Jap model,one Belgian)A  Ducks unlimited Dinner gun(engraved  rizzini combo 20/28 two barrelled set(that is so rare I can't even find any info out about it)That's the one I shoot clays only with.

I WOULD NOT buy a beretta for all the tea in china,A fellow at work has one,he hunted with it for 2 years in North Dakota,never in the rain,cleaned it everynight and the finish on the wood started to peel off,Sent it in to berreta and they told him tough luck and offered to SELL him a new stock and forearm at no discount.I've seen more mechanical failures in berreta firearms at the skeet field than any other,My CZ has thousands of rounds through it and other than a rough saftey that's finally starting to wear in somewhat smooth it's every bit as good as my brownings.

My buddy has a franchi 20 and an skb 12,he likes em both.

After it gets it's first scratch,ding,dent,bluing wearing off your gonna get miffed and the it'll be a field shooter,your kids gonna end up with it and then your grandkids so for investment purposes don't look for mass production,There's an outfit in new england that made some very nice looking shooters a few years back that I really liked the looks of but not the price,think they went out of Biz,now one of those might be worth something in 50 years.

I guess I am looking for that point where you no longer see return on investment.  With all things you get what you pay for.  So I am looking for that point where I get a nice looking and hard working gun.

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[elkinrutdrivemenuts]

What about the mossberg silver reserve line?  I know early production models had problems, but they supposedly fixed it.  I was reading quit a bit about them and they seem like a good option for an affordable o/u that your gonna hunt with.  I checked a couple out and them seem nice enough and felt good, just didn't pull the tigger.

I have never understood why most o/u s cost so much?

[jackelope]

I can show you a few Berettas that have shot thousands of clay targets trouble free. That debate is the same debate as the ford/Chevy/dodge truck debate.

[singleshot12]

Charles Daly sucks! but CZ won't let ya down

[mountainman]

I would shoot nothing BUT Berettas if I could afford them!
 

[jackelope]

Charles Daly sucks! but CZ won't let ya down

I've got a Miroku built Charles daly gun that I have neglected, treated like crap, hunted the salt with etc. goes bang every time. 

[singleshot12]

not familiar with that one, never owned one myself so i shouldn't talk, just heard a couple not so good things from friends. Maybe you got a good one

Charles Daly sucks! but CZ won't let ya down

I've got a Miroku built Charles daly gun that I have neglected, treated like crap, hunted the salt with etc. goes bang every time. 

[ribka]

The Older  CD's built by Miroku are dependable. The more recent have been contracted to be built in Turkey and had some quality control issues. hearing that has been taken care of and quality is improving. No comparison to the older Japan (Miroku) ones though.

not familiar with that one, never owned one myself so i shouldn't talk, just heard a couple not so good things from friends. Maybe you got a good one

Charles Daly sucks! but CZ won't let ya down

I've got a Miroku built Charles daly gun that I have neglected, treated like crap, hunted the salt with etc. goes bang every time. 

[Wacenturion]

Miroku built for Charles Daly too.

I think a lot of what you pay for in a Browning or Beretta over a CZ is long term durability too. By that I mean it will hold up and lock up tight after 10k rounds. Something you don't necessarily need in a field gun. A much higher commodity in a sporting gun. You can drop some huge money in a sporting gun.

Charles Daly Miroku built guns made in the 60's-70's are a bargain.  Every bit as good in their day as Browning Superimposed and even considered better by some.  Same quality, a whole lot less money.  I've got a 28 gauge Miroku Daly...sweetheart.  I also have a Franchi Veloce and Browning Superlight, both in 28 gauge.  All three of these guns have 26 inch barrels.  If I had to give up two and only keep one, it would be the Daly I keep, even with fixed chokes unlike the other two.

You should be able to fine a nice 20 gauge Daly for $700 plus.   

[Wacenturion]

Charles Daly sucks! but CZ won't let ya down

We are talking about the "real" Charles Daly guns from the 60's and 70's.  Not the ones with the same name and lack of quality that came later.

[Ridgeratt]

Ruger quit making shotguns?

[Heredoggydoggy]

Mirokus may look like Browning Superposed guns on the OUTSIDE, but they are nowhere near as well built on the INSIDE.  I had a Miroku skeet O/U that peformed flawlessly for several thousand rounds. Then a hammer spring broke, and I couldn't even get it open to eject the live rounds.  Gunsmith finally found a place to get a new hammer spring, then had to modify it to make it work.  From then on, most of the time it was a single-shot gun.  Finally sold it to somebody who said he could fix it.  Good riddance!  Had a 12 Ga. SKB.  good gun!  Had a Winchester Olin 3-barrel skeet O/U (Japan).  good gun.  Sold them when I quit shooting skeet.  Whatever you get, make sure parts are and will be available for a long time! 

[SeaRun1]

Well I was able to hunt some Quail yesterday with an older Miroki built Browning Citori feather with 26" barrels.  After warming up a bit I was shooting it very well and knocking em' down.

I really liked carrying that 6 pound gun around as it was very light and seemed very short and nimble.

I am going to keep on looking and appreciate all the advice.  If I found a Citori like the one I shot yesterday I would be all over it.

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