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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2013, 02:48:49 PM »
Glad you got a shotgun you like.  Confidence in your gun is a big part of the process.  Remember--You didn't have to sign a marriage contract to  get the gun.  If it turns out you don't like it, get rid of it and get another one!  :chuckle:

I'll try to keep that in mind.  It is awfully pretty though.  It would be hard to let go of it.

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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2013, 02:51:51 PM »
Just following up...

I have learned a lot from this thread and want to thank everyone for taking the time to post and add their thoughts.  I looked at all of my options and went with one that fit well and looked attractive to me.

I picked up the Beretta Silver Pigeon in 20 gauge with 28" barrels.  Looking forward to knocking down some birds this weekend.

Thanks again fellas.

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right on! outstanding gun for the money! I love mine.
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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2013, 03:03:25 PM »
Just following up...

I have learned a lot from this thread and want to thank everyone for taking the time to post and add their thoughts.  I looked at all of my options and went with one that fit well and looked attractive to me.

I picked up the Beretta Silver Pigeon in 20 gauge with 28" barrels.  Looking forward to knocking down some birds this weekend.

Thanks again fellas.

SR1

I'm jealous, way to go and it fits too :tup:  Wish I could afford one but then again I'd be too afraid to srrratch it ;)
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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2013, 04:41:07 PM »
they wear their scratches well, have you seen mine lately? looks like the cat got it :'(
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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #64 on: January 10, 2013, 05:05:30 PM »
I've had the opportunity to hunt with guys who hunt with some pretty nice shotguns.  When I say nice, I mean guns that average about $5000-$10,000, with the occasional gun well over $50,000.  The crazy thing is, the guys who own those ridiculously priced guns, have absolutely no problem hunting them in every condition.   

Last year, before our morning pheasant hunt in PA in the snow, we were all grabbing our guns from the farm house.  One of the guys grabbed his pinless 20 ga sidelock  bespoke SXS from England.  It was a gun worth at least. $50,000+. We were all amazed when the guy grabbed his gun and said "let's go". We asked him if he was really going to hunt with that gun and he said "it's a shotgun, and it was built to hunt"..

There is no such thing as a gun to pretty or expensive to hunt.. They were built to hunt, so lets hunt them...

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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #65 on: January 10, 2013, 05:18:58 PM »
they wear their scratches well, have you seen mine lately? looks like the cat got it :'(

yeah but i bet it hurt when you got your first gouge. And I couldn't imagine falling in the mud with it which i seem to do atleast once a year
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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #66 on: January 10, 2013, 06:58:14 PM »
I know it will get a ding or two pretty quick but I'm cool with that.  The last two new trucks I have bought both made it about two weeks before they got their first real good scratch.  That's life...

I am hunting the gun this weekend for Quail and going to start the legacy with this gun.  If I pass it on to a son with scratches I hope I have raised a son that appreciates a scratched gun and what it represents in the first place.

Again thank you guys for all your help.  HuntWa is a great site.

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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #67 on: January 10, 2013, 07:53:17 PM »
I've had the opportunity to hunt with guys who hunt with some pretty nice shotguns.  When I say nice, I mean guns that average about $5000-$10,000, with the occasional gun well over $50,000.  The crazy thing is, the guys who own those ridiculously priced guns, have absolutely no problem hunting them in every condition.   

Last year, before our morning pheasant hunt in PA in the snow, we were all grabbing our guns from the farm house.  One of the guys grabbed his pinless 20 ga sidelock  bespoke SXS from England.  It was a gun worth at least. $50,000+. We were all amazed when the guy grabbed his gun and said "let's go". We asked him if he was really going to hunt with that gun and he said "it's a shotgun, and it was built to hunt"..

There is no such thing as a gun to pretty or expensive to hunt.. They were built to hunt, so lets hunt them...

but for most us hard working hunters there is such a thing as a gun that is too expensive to buy, and I can tell you first hand when that gun you have worked your ass of for and saved for over the course of a few years finally gets that first scratch and the newness is gone- it truly does hurt, but you get over it pretty quick.

chances are a guy that can afford $50K gun and hunts with it, can also afford another $50K gun if the first one gets damaged beyond repair or at least a top of the line guns smith to pretty it back up. if he can't, he really doesn't have business buying a $50K bird gun in the first place.

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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2013, 05:48:41 AM »
Stilly.  I agree.  But it takes more than just regular hunting wear to damage a quality gun, like the beretta the OP purchased, beyond repair.  Nicks and scratches happen and they can be repaired.  Refinishing wood really isn't that hard, and anyone can do it.  I agree that it sucks every time you put a scratch in a gun, but scratches happen.  I just realized last week when I Was cleaning my gun that my wedding band has put a ton of tiny little dents in the fore end of my 686 White Onyx. It kind of made me mad at first, and then I realized that hopefully, 50-80 years from now, my grand kids and great grand kids will hunt with the gun, and see the marks that my wedding band left.  Hopefully it will give them the same pride it has given me!!

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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #69 on: January 24, 2013, 02:27:39 AM »
Just an FYI for anyone looking for a good double at a great price, CSMC (Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing Company) will end its sale on their new Inverness O/U on 2/1/13.  With all discounts the gun is currently $2950 without any upgrades.  The Inverness is a Round Body gun built similar to the B Rizzini RB and the Ceasar Guerini Evo, which both retail close to $6000.   There is not a single gun in the current price range that even comes close to the Inverness, but the sale and discounts end the end of this month.  Expect the prices to jump to $6000$-$10,000 depending on the final configuration and layout of the gun.....  Currently, the Inverness Deluxe is $6995 with all discounts.  If anyone is in the market for a double, you might want to take a look.

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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #70 on: January 24, 2013, 12:36:56 PM »
thats a sweet gun, especially with most of the upgrades. the solid rib and long tang is the cats meow. too bad you have to wait a year for them to build it for you after plunk down your pocket money.

correct me if Im wrong, but isn't one of the discounts only available if you are counted as a "loyal CSMC customer" otherwise your coughing up another 1K... and I don't think they are starting the price at 3K anymore its more like four or five G's.

I am keeping my eyes peeled for one on the used market, or perhaps if they bring it out in 16 ga. but with all the problems and complaints about the A10 american line, CSMC guns have me a little leery.
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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #71 on: January 24, 2013, 01:10:41 PM »
Not sure what the complaints are about the A-10's, but they are SWEET guns.  My Father in Law has one, and while it did double fire, CMSC fixed it immediately.  I have another buddy who just ordered a sporting model as well. 

You are correct about the Inverness, you do need to be a CSMC customer to get the extra $1000 off.  The current price till Feb 1 is $4995 plus $1000 off if you pay in full and $1000 off if your a current customer.   Those prices are still good, I just had one ordered.  With 3X wood and shipping it came to just over $3400.   Everyone I know with CSMC products have been very happy with them, and that includes some guys who are incredibly picky about guns.  The long tang is nice, but $700 is steep IMO.  I will say though, if money was no object the Deluxe is a beautiful gun.  But for $6950 with all the discounts, it should be.  CSMC says 8-12 months, but hopefully sooner now that they are starting to get the first orders shipped out.

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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2013, 02:42:22 PM »
Not sure what the complaints are about the A-10's, but they are SWEET guns.  My Father in Law has one, and while it did double fire, CMSC fixed it immediately.  I have another buddy who just ordered a sporting model as well. 

there were a few threads on UJ and SS that deplored CSMC's  customer service / quality control issues lately. seems like too many quality issues for a gun at that high of a price point. and those folks are about as picky as you can get.

the new small frame A10 looks like winner, if it handles as good as it looks.

The long tang is nice, but $700 is steep IMO.  I will say though, if money was no object the Deluxe is a beautiful gun.  But for $6950 with all the discounts, it should be.  CSMC says 8-12 months, but hopefully sooner now that they are starting to get the first orders shipped out.

be sure to post up a full critique on hunt -WA  when you get it.  :drool:
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Re: Over/Under advice please?
« Reply #73 on: January 24, 2013, 04:31:56 PM »
Not sure what the complaints are about the A-10's, but they are SWEET guns.  My Father in Law has one, and while it did double fire, CMSC fixed it immediately.  I have another buddy who just ordered a sporting model as well. 

there were a few threads on UJ and SS that deplored CSMC's  customer service / quality control issues lately. seems like too many quality issues for a gun at that high of a price point. and those folks are about as picky as you can get.

the new small frame A10 looks like winner, if it handles as good as it looks.

The long tang is nice, but $700 is steep IMO.  I will say though, if money was no object the Deluxe is a beautiful gun.  But for $6950 with all the discounts, it should be.  CSMC says 8-12 months, but hopefully sooner now that they are starting to get the first orders shipped out.

be sure to post up a full critique on hunt -WA  when you get it.  :drool:

I'll do that.  I'll also say its not going to be my gun.  My dads buying it to leave at my house down here in GA so he doesn't have to take guns back and fourth on the airlines.  Many of the plantations require break open shotguns, and the Inverness was the best bang for the buck at the current time.  But trust me, I will get to shoot it!  Haba

 


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