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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2013, 04:49:28 PM »
Get more cats to use as bait.  It appears that the yotes in the area already have a taste for cat. ;)
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Hahaah there is a chicken farm across the road from us.. i hear packs of coyotes out there almost every night but i havent seen one besides dead on the side of the road. Gonna eventually talk to the landowners over there once i figure out everything i need to do.
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2013, 05:15:38 PM »
Only benefit to the crossbow is the steadiness of aim.  There is no advantage above a standard draw length compound in useful range.  If you are only 5'2" maybe.  But great crossbow efficiencies and longer range tactics are reserved for Hollywood and comic books.
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2013, 05:21:07 PM »
Only benefit to the crossbow is the steadiness of aim.  There is no advantage above a standard draw length compound in useful range.  If you are only 5'2" maybe.  But great crossbow efficiencies and longer range tactics are reserved for Hollywood and comic books.
Right but heres my thought buddy. Being as how hard you and others say it is to nail one with a stringed weapon. Do you think having the weapon pre drawn with a crossbow, and the fact that you can use electronics be beneficial in my situation? I figure a crossbow would eliminate the movement aspect. Scent elimination is my biggest enemy right now though.
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2013, 05:22:13 PM »
I would think that there would be a great advantage to a using a crossbow. Mainly being that you could much more easily shoot from a sitting position, and with a lot less movement than is required with a bow.

The only disadvantage is they are spendy!  At least the ones I have seen. Not sure if it's in your budget. Definitely something to consider in the future though.

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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2013, 05:34:43 PM »
Only benefit to the crossbow is the steadiness of aim.  There is no advantage above a standard draw length compound in useful range.  If you are only 5'2" maybe.  But great crossbow efficiency's and longer range tactics are reserved for Hollywood and comic books.
Right but heres my thought buddy. Being as how hard you and others say it is to nail one with a stringed weapon. Do you think having the weapon pre drawn with a crossbow, and the fact that you can use electronics be beneficial in my situation? I figure a crossbow would eliminate the movement aspect. Scent elimination is my biggest enemy right now though.

The pre-draw movement aspect would be a benefit.  Although isn't the whole idea of chasing these coyotes first to practice your techniques for the big game season?  You master drawing on a coyote and no elk is ever going to catch you :IBCOOL:

The top end pellet rifle would give you the same limited movement benefit.  And it would be lighter in weight, easier to carry and followup shots would be quicker.  And you would likely save a $1,000 on setup.  Though once again I do not know Washington's rules regarding airguns for varmints.


As far as scent...you will never eliminate scent enough to fool a down wind coyote.  Important to make your setup in an area that is difficult for the quarry to approach form down wind.  For the most part coyotes don't circle a great degree when coming to the call.  So a few good obstacles should do the trick.  Nothing is fool proof.  But you can get the odds in your favor by setting up in the right spot.
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2013, 05:37:02 PM »
I would think that there would be a great advantage to a using a crossbow. Mainly being that you could much more easily shoot from a sitting position, and with a lot less movement than is required with a bow.

The only disadvantage is they are spendy!  At least the ones I have seen. Not sure if it's in your budget. Definitely something to consider in the future though.
Not really within my budget but then again nothing really is. Ive seen some fully built ones at some sporting stores with scopes already for about 300-400 bucks. Seems like it might be something worth saving up for. and your right bobcat i could imagine you could even lay down with a guilly suit and really call them in close.
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2013, 05:41:29 PM »
Only benefit to the crossbow is the steadiness of aim.  There is no advantage above a standard draw length compound in useful range.  If you are only 5'2" maybe.  But great crossbow efficiency's and longer range tactics are reserved for Hollywood and comic books.
Right but heres my thought buddy. Being as how hard you and others say it is to nail one with a stringed weapon. Do you think having the weapon pre drawn with a crossbow, and the fact that you can use electronics be beneficial in my situation? I figure a crossbow would eliminate the movement aspect. Scent elimination is my biggest enemy right now though.

The pre-draw movement aspect would be a benefit.  Although isn't the whole idea of chasing these coyotes first to practice your techniques for the big game season?  You master drawing on a coyote and no elk is ever going to catch you :IBCOOL:

The top end pellet rifle would give you the same limited movement benefit.  And it would be lighter in weight, easier to carry and followup shots would be quicker.  And you would likely save a $1,000 on setup.  Though once again I do not know Washington's rules regarding airguns for varmints.


As far as scent...you will never eliminate scent enough to fool a down wind coyote.  Important to make your setup in an area that is difficult for the quarry to approach form down wind.  For the most part coyotes don't circle a great degree when coming to the call.  So a few good obstacles should do the trick.  Nothing is fool proof.  But you can get the odds in your favor by setting up in the right spot.
Lol you are absolutely right. I guess i got alittle sidetracked :) but its still something interesting to consider. Maybe further down the road then.
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2013, 05:44:08 PM »
and your right bobcat i could imagine you could even lay down with a guilly suit and really call them in close.

If you are young and tough that would be the way to do it!  We did that hunting over bait for crows back in the 80's with early PSE and Bear crossbows.  Worked great!  These days I'm not sure my head would stay attached and I might need some help getting back up after an hour in that position.
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2013, 05:49:08 PM »
If you have a chicken farm near you you will ALWAYS have coyotes around... They don't call them chicken thiefs for nothing!
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2013, 05:50:58 PM »
I guess i got alittle sidetracked :)

Welcome to the age of maturity and senior moments :chuckle:
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2013, 05:54:50 PM »
If you have a chicken farm near you you will ALWAYS have coyotes around... They don't call them chicken thiefs for nothing!
Great! I cant wait to pick some off. Should i throw out a trail cam first or what? Maybe some bait if thats legal to try n snap pics? Not sure if i can bait them in to shoot though. Im still trying to figure everything out.
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2013, 06:01:53 PM »
Since there is a chicken farm they are coming to check it and every thing else out. If i was you i'd get up EARLY w/ a cup of coffie and find a good spot to recon the area. I can almost gaurentee you they are coming in every eving/morning.
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2013, 06:05:53 PM »
Smoss, this is what you do! Hopfully you gots a tree stand or can build one or more encompassing the area you here the yotees! Go to the pound and get yourself some cats. Any cat will do. Louder the cat the better. Put em out in cages so the yotees cants get em. Then wait. Id hunt day and night. Also blow a rabbit distress call while the cats are in the cages. Even
Better get yourself a rabbit and bring it with you to your stand and grab its leg and just slightly twist it! Sure fire yotee getter right there!! Good luck! Be safe!
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2013, 10:01:36 PM »
 :yeah: I've heard of people doing this for bobcat/cougar hunting. :twocents:
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Re: Gonna start with coyotes.
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2013, 12:13:45 AM »
Lol. I laughed so hard reading this. I love you guys hahaha
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