Gun Safes?

[high country]

Ask your insurance adjuster how many total losses he has seen that never saw a flame....I am not worried, I have a pretty elaborate system that should withstand most everything shy of a nuke.

You can add cinder block walls and threaded steel pipe sprinklers to keep it all safe. The block can be masked to look like something other than a looters gold mine;)

[jaymark6655]

Not disagreeing, use to clean up after stuff like that.

Not too big on the sprinkler systems, seen alot of bad "floods"  when somebody manages to accidently activates one in their house.
Worse I ever seen was an oil furnace backfire, everything was covered in oil soot smoke.

Most guns probably can do okay with smoke and water as long as you can get to them and clean them in a resonable amount of time.
Everything else, I recommend a waterproof/airtight container inside the safe.  I don't think any gun safes are water proof.

[Snopczynski]

I am with NW Safe in Enumclaw. If you guys have questions, I can answer them.

I feel the best gun safe you can buy (if your basing this off security and fire protection) is a Graffunder. The best safes you can buy are TL30X6's, these can also be purchased and converted over to gun safe interiors. We carry a line called Original Safe Platinums for the TL30X6's.

Don't the NW Safe in Enumclaw have an annual sale?  Can you share some additional information on that sale?

We do usually have one in may and september. Howevere, if you wait from september until may, the manufacturers have price increases every year in January and february. So the safes will go on sale in may, but they won't be as discounted as they would be up to december & January range before the price increase. We have a year end clearance going right now, I would take advantage of it. We got word from two of the factories of the increases already.

You guys would be suprised how long a house fire near the fire station will still burn. There was a fire in Bonney lake that started at night while the home owners were sleeping. They got out and the FD showed up within 10 minutes (3 miles away). The house had open flames for HOURS, and the FD was on site for a good 6 hours until they had the hot spots put out. The fire got so hot it melted the wheels on the cars in the garage. It all has to do with what combustibles you have in the house as too how long the fire will burn. From experience, safes under 60 minutes tend to get damaged very badly in a total loss house fire. The higher above 60 minutes you go, the better, and better the inside of the safe will look. Safes like the Superiors and Summits have two fire seals on the door to help keep smoke, soot, and water out of them. Safes are tested for when the temp inside rises above 350 degrees. Above 350 is when paper starts to char. Paper ignites at 418 degrees, powder ignites at 550 degrees. Technically ammo and powder would be ok in a safe if you had a good fire rating. I don't keep my powder, or most of my ammo in my safe. I don't have the room. The inside of safes get steamed from moisture coming out of the fire liner. You want to get them open asap, the longer you wait, the bigger the chance of loss you have on the firearm finishes.

[eburg127]

I have had a browning safe for about 10 years and really like it.  One of the biggest complaints about safes is "it's not big enough".  Remember to buy one bigger than the amount of guns you have now (for your future gun collection).  I am amazed in the amount of "important stuff" that I have stored in my safe:  Documents, wifes jewelry, etc.  You can fill it up really quick!

[brush hunter]

I have 2 safes, one in the bedroom, 24 gun, and one in another room 42 gun safe. The one in the beedroom has the most used guns in it, and they ALL are loaded. Oh a 3rd safe, the one called me thats where my everyday gun goes, and it goes everywhere with me.

[Hunting Cowboy]

NW Safe in Enumclaw

I agree! I bought a Liberty Safe from them a few years ago. I have not regretted it. Suggestion......By bigger than you think you need. I highly recommend NW Safe Co. 

[KimberRich]

Fort Knox. 

Best safe out there in my opinion, made in the US, and you can customize it to exactly what you want.

Contact Western Safe in Mukilteo.  They'll deliver it and set it up for free and he's a hell of a nice guy.

Where is Western Safe located at in Mukilteo? I work there and use to live there and have never heard of them before. I did a quick search and nothing popped up. I would be really interested in looking at what they have.

Per the Fort Knox Website:

Western Safe LLC
PO Box 1191
Mukilteo, WA 98275
1-866-480-5669
sales@westernsafellc.com

[Doc Sauce]

Look into Sturdy Safe...  They do not advertise and don't sell in stores, which keeps their costs down.  They also don't do the stuff that people "want"... like 4 way locking bolts (how many banks or military vaults have 4 way locks?  Not as many as you would think) or pretty decorations or even carpet that is glued to the bottom.  What they do make are super heavy and solid safes that seem to outperform other safes of similar size.

Watch their videos, watch them cut holes in their safe just to try to break into the thing... and watch them break into the popular safes too.  It's amazing. 

http://www.sturdysafe.com/

I do not work for them.  I just did my reading and made objective observations.  I tried to cut out "salesmanship" and just look at the "beef".

Whatever you get, secure it.  No safe will protect anything after being dragged away by a truck and worked on with no time limit.