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Re: advice on night yotes
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2013, 01:28:01 AM »
Use a red filter on your light and keep it on all the time with little movement if you can.  A couple motorcycle batteries in a pack will keep you going if calling away from the rig.  When you are ready to shoot blast 'em with full white.  Best when done with a team.  Quite hard to get them within archery range at night as the light does tend to get their attention.  But generally your good to go within rifle range.  Maybe even long shotgun range.  Dang foxes would jump right up onto the rig at night and stare into the light.  Stupid *censored*s :chuckle:  Never have waited long enough to see if I could get a cat inside of 30 yards at night.  Most have laid down on me out around 80 yards so I switch from arrow to the triple deuce.

As far as continuing to howl after locating it all depends on time of year.  I haven't had much luck bringing them close with the howler after the pups have left the den.  So after May until about late March/mid April I put the howler away and stick with house cat, rabbit or rodent calls.  In spring get mobile and use the howler as you close in on the dens at night.  Once you get close settle in and start the hurt pup call aggressively.  And be ready!!!  This is where I use the shotgun as more often than not it's like shooting a running alligator coming right after you.  Ears pinned back and teeth shinning in the light.  Dang fun and exciting stuff!

Night time vermin hunting can be one heck of a lot of fun.  And extremely effective once you get it figured out.  Good luck.
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Re: advice on night yotes
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2013, 05:29:36 PM »
I have hunted them quite bit  during the day. And as far as success, its predator hunting! Some days better than others. I have used hand calls with great success as well as e callers. Somedays u wonder if u brought enough shells & how u are going to get back to the pick up,others u enjoy the views & exercise. I'm not randy Anderson by any means,but I have put my share of kitty's & dogs on the ground. I have lenses, think red works the best or just white? My scope mounted ND3x40 is green.
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Re: advice on night yotes
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2013, 07:45:40 AM »
I have heard (no first hand experience) that green spooks yotes.  Red or Amber is a much better color. IMHO
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Re: advice on night yotes
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2013, 06:24:48 PM »
I'm goin to try white, see how they respond. All all else fails I can throw the red filter on. I know with my laser gen. which has a green beam,most seemed ok with it. I have night owl night vision. Does anyone know if it wood be any good to watch threw them & not turning lights on till ready to shoot? Anyone know of a brand of spot light that really puts out but runs more then 20min. Im going to try the bike batterys but that seems like a lot of wait to pack to far.
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Re: advice on night yotes
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2013, 06:40:45 PM »
And what candle power? 5million ok? Or dimmer2millm?
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Re: advice on night yotes
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2013, 08:40:02 AM »
I have a 3 mill & 2 that are about 950 lumens what ever that translates to. My ND3 I have no clue but it will light up eyes further then I will shoot at night. It's a beck of a light but pricey compared to some. I've been going to look for another to scan with, thinking of lookin at tue 'wicked'. Any input?
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Re: advice on night yotes
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2013, 03:05:13 PM »
Well I gave the night thing a go last weekend, every stand I had them howlin around me but couldn't get them in. Is this normal? I would start out with a howl & then go to a distress, after a few I would do a yote cotton dis. Then end with a few greet howls. I tried e caller, hand calls. But nothin seemed to bring'em in. Will be out ther again. But its maddening to know how close they are but can't get them to move.
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Re: advice on night yotes
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2013, 04:13:28 PM »
Once you locate just stick with the one call this time of year.  Cottontail should be great. 

Biggest mistake new callers make is being too loud and too long winded at the beginning of the sequence.  Start off very small and timid.  Think "I'm in distress, but not yet being torn apart."  Convey that in the temperament of your call.  Remember you are talking to the coyote through emotion. 

Cottontails have very small lungs.  Be sure to represent that in each blast.  No coyote is going to mess with a 300# rabbit so don't sound like one ;)

After about 10 minutes of calling start to increase both volume and excitement.  Thinking like the rabbit you are now in extreme distress.  I like to imagine I am being ripped apart by a small fox or martin.  Something that is not big enough to kill me right away.  Make that coyote think he can come steal some easy vittles from a smaller predator.  Again, don't forget you are a small rabbit with small lungs - loud does not mean long drawn out blasts.

Have you ever seen a small dog like a Yorkie trying to kill a toy?  They pin it down, bite it, shake it, flip it and repeat.  Try to imagine yourself being that toy and transfer that emotion and distress through the call.  This I will do for an additional 5 to 10 minutes.

After the extreme distress series of calling you want to once again reduce volume and enter the exhaustion stage.  Here I imagine that I am now just minutes from death having no more energy to fight off the small predator.  My face often falls deep into the dirt and I moan with every small breath I can muster as the fox or martin begins to eat me alive.  This is not a stage of distress or blasting.  Just slow moans of exhaustion and life escaping form my little rabbit body.  I do not call constantly at this time. This final sequence is no longer than five minutes.

If after these three sequences I have been unable to bring the coyotes in I sit still for another 5 to 10 minutes before picking up and moving location.

I can not express the importance of imagination here.  You don't ever want your quarry to ever think you might be a human blowing on a call.  And you never want that coyote to think you are too dang big to be an easy meal.  Imagine yourself as that poor little flea bitten rabbit - little, fragile, scared to death, and slowly dying at the hands of a predator only slightly larger than you are.  This is where a digital caller can never compete with a good hand caller.

If you can visualize that and portray that image through your call you are going to kill a lot of dogs :tup:
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Re: advice on night yotes
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2013, 05:10:26 PM »
Thanks for the advice radsav. Ya I would get them goin with a greet, then go to a vole dis. For a min, wait about 5 then again for about a min. After about 20 minutes of this I would wait a couple then pack up.
I know they should be pairing right now, but ya its frustrating when u hear them,know their close but u just can't seal the deal.
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