Proud or Ashamed

[huntnphool]

I can't beleive this topic has made it this many pages over a $35 DP.

And I paid $72,000 in taxes last year.

I said it because several people were complaining about how they could not afford it

Really, which posts were those?

Whats funny is you make light of those that don't want to pay $35 for the DP, boasting about your income, yet in another thread whine about private land owners wanting $1500 for a access fee to their private land for elk. Seems to me someone that boasts about paying $72K in taxes wouldn't think twice about paying $1500 in trespass fees for trophy elk, I sure as hell don't.

 Just my if you trully are making that kind of money, you need a new accountant/money manager.

[Mudman]

If we have to buy disc. pass and the state wants to have wardens take over for dnr leos does that eliminate any passes?  Im confused now!  Dunno?  I did buy pass so I could take old man up to Toutle and not cause any issues for his hunt.  For myself I did not have one until then.  I hated buying it so much, was in a bad mood for a week.  May have vented on here about it   . 

[skywalker253]

I can't beleive this topic has made it this many pages over a $35 DP.

And I paid $72,000 in taxes last year.

I said it because several people were complaining about how they could not afford it

Really, which posts were those?

Whats funny is you make light of those that don't want to pay $35 for the DP, boasting about your income, yet in another thread whine about private land owners wanting $1500 for a access fee to their private land for elk. Seems to me someone that boasts about paying $72K in taxes wouldn't think twice about paying $1500 in trespass fees for trophy elk, I sure as hell don't.

 Just my if you trully are making that kind of money, you need a new accountant/money manager.

Oh geez! Here comes another argument.

Post #18- Expressed frustration with having to buy passes for multiple vehicles and incinuating is was not affordable.
Post #63- Complained that with all the fee's, he could not afford to pay for a DP etc.

I get frusterating when I read people upset over $35. After reading this topic, I understand their point of view and agree with them. It is more about the principle, when they are already paying enough in taxes, fee's, etc. I agree with them. I know how that feels, as I make great money for my age. Every year I am in the third highest tax bracket in the country. Not trying to boast about my the money I make; just making the point that $35 is nothing compared to paying $72,000 in taxes on avg. every year. How is that fair? That is damn near 1/3 of my salary and I still have to pay for all this other crap. I pay it, because I have to and it is the right thing to do. I hope that my money is going to where they say it is.

And yes I was bitching about having to pay $1500 to hunt in my topic. It may be worth it to YOU, as you are a diehard hunter and probably don't mind paying that kind of money. You pay it, because you love hunting and want an opportunity to shoot the biggest bull in the woods. You want to impress your buddies on hunt-wa by posting your hunt story and the pictures to prove it. You will likely take it to the Sportsman Show and get it officially scored. There is nothing wrong with ANY of that, butl that kind of stuff is not that important too me. $1500 is not worth it to ME, as I am not a diehard hunter like you are. I don't care if I get the biggest bull in the woods. If I get one great! If not; I will try again next year and hope for the best. I have several hobbies outside of hunting to keep me busy; like my street rod collection, fishing, my family, and investing in realestate. They are far more expensive then hunting. Could I pay it? YES....will I NO. Why? Because if I do my homework, I can harvest a nice bull for free. Maybe not a 400 inch bull, but I don't care how big it is.

[skywalker253]

No I don't need a new accountant or money manager. Go research what a Western United States Regional Sales Director in Medical Device Sales makes per year. We are well paid for the patient care we deliver to the market place. Again; I am not trying to boast, but you are calling me out, so touchet my friend.

Each of us has placed a value on hunting. Your value is far greater then mine, despite the fact that I could pay dearly to harvest an elk. Now back to the topic at hand...

[MikeWalking]

3. Happy to see messed up, eroded, washed out trails get fixed real quick after it went into effect.  Noting the $$ came from the Pass.

[Simcoe hunter]

3. Happy to see messed up, eroded, washed out trails get fixed real quick after it went into effect.  Noting the $$ came from the Pass.

Where?  I would be hard pressed to have seen or heard of improvements in my area.  Maybe that is what is keeping the grass mowed at the local parks?

[Mudman]

   Where?  Only time seen that ot was volunteer clubs doing it.  

[Rgrady35]

Fortunately, I live in Spokane. Fishing Idaho this year. Probably will from now on.

[Becky]

I can't beleive this topic has made it this many pages over a $35 DP.

And I paid $72,000 in taxes last year.

I said it because several people were complaining about how they could not afford it

Really, which posts were those?

Whats funny is you make light of those that don't want to pay $35 for the DP, boasting about your income, yet in another thread whine about private land owners wanting $1500 for a access fee to their private land for elk. Seems to me someone that boasts about paying $72K in taxes wouldn't think twice about paying $1500 in trespass fees for trophy elk, I sure as hell don't.

 Just my if you trully are making that kind of money, you need a new accountant/money manager.

Oh geez! Here comes another argument.

Post #18- Expressed frustration with having to buy passes for multiple vehicles and incinuating is was not affordable.
Post #63- Complained that with all the fee's, he could not afford to pay for a DP etc.

I get frusterating when I read people upset over $35. After reading this topic, I understand their point of view and agree with them. It is more about the principle, when they are already paying enough in taxes, fee's, etc. I agree with them. I know how that feels, as I make great money for my age. Every year I am in the third highest tax bracket in the country. Not trying to boast about my the money I make; just making the point that $35 is nothing compared to paying $72,000 in taxes on avg. every year. How is that fair? That is damn near 1/3 of my salary and I still have to pay for all this other crap. I pay it, because I have to and it is the right thing to do. I hope that my money is going to where they say it is.

And yes I was bitching about having to pay $1500 to hunt in my topic. It may be worth it to YOU, as you are a diehard hunter and probably don't mind paying that kind of money. You pay it, because you love hunting and want an opportunity to shoot the biggest bull in the woods. You want to impress your buddies on hunt-wa by posting your hunt story and the pictures to prove it. You will likely take it to the Sportsman Show and get it officially scored. There is nothing wrong with ANY of that, butl that kind of stuff is not that important too me. $1500 is not worth it to ME, as I am not a diehard hunter like you are. I don't care if I get the biggest bull in the woods. If I get one great! If not; I will try again next year and hope for the best. I have several hobbies outside of hunting to keep me busy; like my street rod collection, fishing, my family, and investing in realestate. They are far more expensive then hunting. Could I pay it? YES....will I NO. Why? Because if I do my homework, I can harvest a nice bull for free. Maybe not a 400 inch bull, but I don't care how big it is.

Not getting into this side debate at all, I didn't read it fully to even voice an opinion... but since you pointed out my post (#18) I just wanted to specify I only meant they do not ALLOW me to purchase another pass if I already have one purchased under my license is all. I tried. He looked me up in the computer and said "I'm sorry, you've already purchased a pass this year".

[bobcat]

Not getting into this side debate at all, I didn't read it fully to even voice an opinion... but since you pointed out my post (#18) I just wanted to specify I only meant they do not ALLOW me to purchase another pass if I already have one purchased under my license is all. I tried. He looked me up in the computer and said "I'm sorry, you've already purchased a pass this year".

The clerk was wrong. You should be able to buy as many as you want.

[Becky]

Not getting into this side debate at all, I didn't read it fully to even voice an opinion... but since you pointed out my post (#18) I just wanted to specify I only meant they do not ALLOW me to purchase another pass if I already have one purchased under my license is all. I tried. He looked me up in the computer and said "I'm sorry, you've already purchased a pass this year".

The clerk was wrong. You should be able to buy as many as you want.

Oooooh really? Good to know ... it was *ahem* a walmart clerk... lol. He didn't even try any further, once he seen it already purchased he said I already have the pass and sort of dismissed me.

[huntnphool]

I can't beleive this topic has made it this many pages over a $35 DP.

And I paid $72,000 in taxes last year.

I said it because several people were complaining about how they could not afford it

Really, which posts were those?

Whats funny is you make light of those that don't want to pay $35 for the DP, boasting about your income, yet in another thread whine about private land owners wanting $1500 for a access fee to their private land for elk. Seems to me someone that boasts about paying $72K in taxes wouldn't think twice about paying $1500 in trespass fees for trophy elk, I sure as hell don't.

 Just my if you trully are making that kind of money, you need a new accountant/money manager.

Oh geez! Here comes another argument.

Post #18- Expressed frustration with having to buy passes for multiple vehicles and incinuating is was not affordable.
Post #63- Complained that with all the fee's, he could not afford to pay for a DP etc.

I get frusterating when I read people upset over $35. After reading this topic, I understand their point of view and agree with them. It is more about the principle, when they are already paying enough in taxes, fee's, etc. I agree with them. I know how that feels, as I make great money for my age. Every year I am in the third highest tax bracket in the country. Not trying to boast about my the money I make; just making the point that $35 is nothing compared to paying $72,000 in taxes on avg. every year. How is that fair? That is damn near 1/3 of my salary and I still have to pay for all this other crap. I pay it, because I have to and it is the right thing to do. I hope that my money is going to where they say it is.

And yes I was bitching about having to pay $1500 to hunt in my topic. It may be worth it to YOU, as you are a diehard hunter and probably don't mind paying that kind of money. You pay it, because you love hunting and want an opportunity to shoot the biggest bull in the woods. You want to impress your buddies on hunt-wa by posting your hunt story and the pictures to prove it. You will likely take it to the Sportsman Show and get it officially scored. There is nothing wrong with ANY of that, butl that kind of stuff is not that important too me. $1500 is not worth it to ME, as I am not a diehard hunter like you are. I don't care if I get the biggest bull in the woods. If I get one great! If not; I will try again next year and hope for the best. I have several hobbies outside of hunting to keep me busy; like my street rod collection, fishing, my family, and investing in realestate. They are far more expensive then hunting. Could I pay it? YES....will I NO. Why? Because if I do my homework, I can harvest a nice bull for free. Maybe not a 400 inch bull, but I don't care how big it is.

Not getting into this side debate at all, I didn't read it fully to even voice an opinion... but since you pointed out my post (#18) I just wanted to specify I only meant they do not ALLOW me to purchase another pass if I already have one purchased under my license is all. I tried. He looked me up in the computer and said "I'm sorry, you've already purchased a pass this year".

Exactly SG, I took it just as you intended it, I didn't see you or any of the other "several people complaining" about it anywhere in the thread?

[skywalker253]

What about post #63?

Let's be honest; people are complaining about having to buy a DP, or we would not even have this thread. For various reasons, but ultimately most are not exactly thrilled about having to purchase it. Some are taking the "outlaw" approach and bucking the system out of protest. At the end of the day....its only $35. Just buy the DP and hope your funds are used properly.

$35 to access an area to hunt (DP) versus paying a land owner $1500 to access an area to hunt, is a huge difference. I can buy 43 DP's a year for that price!

[skywalker253]

I understand why you did not acknowledge post #63. Nobody likes to be proven wrong in a public forum. I probably wouldn't admit it either. No biggie! Good try thou!

[Mudman]

Skywalker, not every hunter makes 200k a year.  35$ can be a big deal to a person making 9$hour and raising a family etc, etc.  Just saying have to see it from all points of view. This Disc. pass has been hashed out enuff on here so it is what it is and isnt going away.  We will pay to access OUR land and thats final.