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House Bill 1588 is advertised as a background check bill?
« on: February 11, 2013, 12:17:12 PM »
Below is the latest from Joe Waldron, the legislative watchdog at Washington Arms Collectors (WAC).   When the WA legislature is in session, he sends a weekly email reporting on current firearms related bills being considered in Olympia.  House Bill 1588 is advertised as a background check bill.  In fact it is a gun registration bill.  As we all know from past history, registration is ALWAYS followed by confiscation (England, Canada, Australia, etc.), and eventually by genocide.  (In 1933 the Germans didn't think it could happen.  By 1945, Hitler had murdered millions of his own citizens.  Stalin and Mao did the same thing.)  HB 1588 is scheduled for a hearing on Wed, 13 Feb @8 A.M., along with other anti gun bills. 

If you care about your right to keep and bear arms (or that of your child or grandchild), you should be on his email list.  If you want to subscribe to GOAL Post by e-mail, send a message to "jwaldron@halcyon.com".  On the subject line enter "subscribe".   

 

A few years ago I attended a hearing on a gun confiscation bill.  Thanks to Joe there was a huge crowd in attendance.  95% of them were opposed to the bill.  The bill never came up for a floor vote because it died in committee.  All politicians are keenly aware of numbers.  When they realize that they might be voted out of office because of their vote on a particular bill, they pay attention.  You do NOT have to give public testimony.  Just go to the building where the hearing is being held.  Tables just outside or inside the hearing room have sign-up sheets available.  You can sign on and state your position on a bill ("pro" = support, "con" = oppose).  It takes only a couple of minutes.  Then you can visit your state senator and representatives and let them know that you are paying attention to their vote.  If they are not in the office, you can leave a message with their secretary.  All of them understand that if you are serious enough about a bill to drive all the way to Olympia, they would be wise to pay attention.  You can also tell them your opinion of anything else that interests you, such as tax increases.

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Legislative Update from Olympia                                    8 February 2013

 

SEVERAL NEW BILLS FILED

 

TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED

 

TURNOUT NEEDED IN OLYMPIA

 

At least eight new gun bills were filed, good and bad.  HB 1676 by Rep. Ruth Kagi (D-32) is another mandatory safe storage bill similar to the 1997 "Whitney Graves" bill.  HB 1703 by Rep. Laurie Jinkins (D-27) is interesting: it imposes a $25 tax per transfer of any firearm, as well as a tax of one cent per round of ammunition sold... to fund a state-developed firearms safety training program.  Between this and HB 1588/SB 5625, that's a $45 tax on EVERY firearm transferred.  HB 1729 by Rep. Judy Warnick (R-13) adds penalties to street gang members found with firearms, and HB 1788 by Rep. Liz Pike (R-18) would allow qualified school personnel to carry on campus.

On the Senate side, SB 5604 by Sen. Brian Hatfield (D-19) would authorize an NRA license plate.  (I'll just say it once: I believe we'd be better off with a generic "Second Amendment" plate -- it's harder to criticize the Bill of Rights.)  SBs 5625 and 5711 by Sen. Adam Kline (D-37) are similar to HB 1588 -- they require ALL firearm transfers to be conducted by an FFL or by law enforcement, with resulting record keeping (de facto registration) AND a $20 transfer fee (tax).  SB 5635, also by Sen. Kline, makes it harder for firearm rights to be restored.

Two public hearings are scheduled for next week.  On Wednesday, 13 February at 8:00 a.m., the House Judiciary will take public testimony on HBs 1147, 1588, 1612 and 1676.  On Friday, 15 February also at 8:00 a.m., the Senate Law & Justice Committee will conduct a public hearing on SB 5479.   

If at all possible, PLEASE try to attend the House Judiciary hearing on Wednesday.  It's important that we get as large a pro-gun turn-out as possible to demonstrate our opposition to HBs 1588 and 1676.  HB 1588, especially, as it creates a de facto gun registration system in Washington.  There are ways to conduct background checks that DO NOT retain data on the transfer.  If they want background checks, run a pure background check bill.  If they want registration, call it that and let's debate it.

If you can't attend the hearing, please write to your Representatives AND to the members of the Judiciary Committee and go on record with your opposition to these two bills.  Links to legislator contact information:

http://www.leg.wa.gov/Senate/Senators/

http://www.leg.wa.gov/House/Representatives/

House Judiciary Committee:

Rep, Jaime Pedersen (D-43)          jaime.pedersen@leg.wa.gov

Rep. Drew Hansen (D-23)             drew.hansen@leg.wa.gov

Rep. Jay Rodne (R-5)                     jay.rodne@leg.wa.gov

Rep. Steve O'Ban (R-28)               steve.oban@leg.wa.gov

Rep. Roger Goodman (D-45)        roger.goodman@leg.wa.gov

Rep. Mike Hope (R-44)                 mike.hope@leg.wa.gov

Rep. Laurie Jinkins (D-27)            laurie.jinkins@leg.wa.gov

Rep. Steve Kirby (D-29)                steve.kirby@leg.wa.gov

Rep. Brad Klippert (R-8)               brad.klippert@leg.wa.gov

Rep. Terry Nealey (R-16)              terry.nealey@leg.wa.gov

Rep. Tina Orwall (D-33)               tina.orwall@leg.wa.gov

Rep. Mary Helen Roberts (D-21)    maryhelen.roberts@leg.wa.gov

Rep. Matt Shea (R-4)                   matt.shea@leg.wa.gov

 

In the "GOAL Position"  vbseveral bills are marked "CONCERNS."  As mentioned previously, the concerns are based on how the bill might be improperly enforced and ensnare an individual that the bill was never intended to trap.  There is a lot of judicial and prosecutorial flexibility in the system, theoretically enough to preclude this from happening.  That's in a perfect world.  We don't live in a perfect world.

 

BILL STATUS:

House Bill numbering begins with 1000; Senate Bills with 5000.  The following bills have been filed so far in the 2013-14 biennium:

 

Bill #        Subject                                             Sponsor                       Status

HB 1096   Juvi illegal firearm possession      Hurst (D-31)             H. Jud

HB 1147   1st degree juvi unlawful possess.   Goodman (D-45)      H. Jud

HB 1184   Range protection                            Takko (D-19)           H. Jud

HB 1318   CPL renewal notice                        Taylor (-15)            H. Jud

HB 1371   WA Firearms Freedom Act           Taylor (R-15)         H. Jud

HB 1383   Stalking protection orders             Goodman (D-45)   H. Jud

HB 1561   Short barreled rifles                       Blake (D-19)         H. Jud

HB 1588   Background checks                       Pedersen (D-43)     H. Jud

HB 1612   Firearm offender registry              Hope (R-44)          H. Jud

HB 1676   Mandatory safe storage                 Kagi (D-32)            H. Jud

HB 1703   Gun "safety" training and tax           Jinkins (D-27)        H. Jud

HB 1729   Street gangs                                      Warnick (R-13)     H. Jud

HB 1788   Firearms/school employees              Pike (R-18)            H. Jud

 

SB 5282   DSHS/WSP info exchange               Carrell (R-28)       S. HS&C

SB 5376   Juvi illegal firearm possession         Kline (D-37)         S. HS&C

SB 5452   Stalking protection orders               Conway (D-           S. HS&C

SB 5478   Firearms/mental health court           Keiser (D-33)       S. L&J

SB 5479   Safekeeping of firearms                   Keiser (D-33)        S. L&J

SB 5485   Mandatory safe storage                    Kline (D-37)         S. L&J

SB 5604   NRA license plates                           Hatfield (D-19)     S. Trans

HB 5625   Background checks                           Kline (D-37)        S. L&J

SB 5635   Restoration of firearm rights             Kline (D-37)        S. L&J

SB 5711   Background checks                           Kline (D-37)        S. L&J

Key to abbreviations:  SB = Senate Bill, HB = House Bill, Jud = Judiciary, L&J = Law & Justice, HS&C = Human Services & Corrections, Trans = Transportation

 

GOAL POSITION ON BILLS

 

HB 1096     CONCERNS

HB 1147     CONCERNS

HB 1184     SUPPORT

HB 1318     SUPPORT

HB 1371     SUPPORT

HB 1383     CONCERNS

HB 1561     SUPPORT

HB 1588     OPPOSE

HB 1612     CONCERNS

HB 1676     OPPOSE

HB 1703     OPPOSE

HB 1729     SUPPORT

HB 1788     SUPPORT

SB 5282     SUPPORT

SB 5376     CONCERNS

SB 5452     CONCERNS

SB 5478     CONCERNS

SB 5479     OPPOSE

SB 5485     OPPOSE

SB 5604     NEUTRAL

SB 5625     OPPOSE

SB 5635     OPPOSE ?

SB 5711     OPPOSE

 

HEARING(S) SCHEDULED

 

13 Feb         HBs 1147, 1676, 1588, 1612       House Judiciary Committee

8:00 a.m.     House Hearing Room "A"   John L. O'Brien House Office Building

 

15 Feb        SB 5479                                Senate Law & Justice Committee

8:00 a..m.   Senate Hearing Room "1"        John A. Cherberg Senate Office Building

 

7 Feb           HB 1383                           House Judiciary Committee

1:30 p.m.    House Hearing Room "A"      John L. O'Brien House Office Building

LEGISLATIVE HOT LINE:  You may reach your Representatives and Senator by calling the Legislative Hotline at 1-800-562-6000.  Toll free!  The hearing impaired may obtain TDD access at 1-800-635-9993.  Also toll free!

 

            1-800-562-6000   TDD 1-800-635-9993

 

OTHER DATA:  Copies of pending legislation (bills), legislative schedules and other information are available on the legislature's web site at "www.leg.wa.gov".  Bills are available in Acrobat (.pdf) format.  You may download a free version of Adobe Acrobat Reader from Adobe's web site (http://www.adobe.com).  You may also obtain hard copy bills, initiatives, etc, in the mail from the Legislative Bill Room FREE OF CHARGE by calling 1-360-786-7573.  Copies of bills may also be ordered toll free by calling the Legislative Hotline at (800) 562-6000.  You may also hear floor and committee hearing action live athttp://www.tvw.org/ (you need "RealAudio" to do this, available free at the TVW web site).

 

By reading the House and Senate "bill reports" (hbr, sbr) for each bill, you can see how individual committee members voted.  By reading the "roll call" for each bill, you can see how the entire House or Senate voted on any bill.  The beauty of the web site is that ALL this information is available, on line, to any citizen.

 

GET THE WORD OUT:  If you want to subscribe to the GOAL Post by e-mail, send a message to "jwaldron@halcyon.com".  Please pass GOAL Post on to anyone you believe may have an interest in protecting our rights.  Better yet, make a couple of copies of this message, post it on your gun club’s bulletin board, and leave copies with your local gun shop(s).  PERMISSION IS HEREBY GRANTED TO DUPLICATE OR REDISTRIBUTE GOAL POST PROVIDED IT IS REPRODUCED IN ITS ENTIRETY WITHOUT TEXTUAL MODIFICATION AND CREDIT IS GIVEN TO GOAL.  I can be reached at "jwaldron@halcyon.com" or by telephone at (425) 985-4867.  Unfortunately, I am unable to mail hard copy GOAL Post to individuals.  Limited numbers of hard copies MAY be available at the Second Amendment Foundation book table at WAC gun shows

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Re: House Bill 1588 is advertised as a background check bill?
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2013, 12:58:50 PM »
DON'T TREAD ON ME!, Jeez, what part of Shall not be Infringed do they not understand?
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Re: House Bill 1588 is advertised as a background check bill?
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2013, 01:19:36 PM »
Thanks for the great info snookmonster! :tup:
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Re: House Bill 1588 is advertised as a background check bill?
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2013, 01:29:52 PM »
I can't be there for hearings but I can and will contact my Legislators!

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Re: House Bill 1588 is advertised as a background check bill?
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 12:50:23 AM »
hope lots show up but personally I appose 1561 don't just go with what somebody has already shown their opinion form your own.
80 years of infringment is as bad as 40 years :twocents:
"When my bow falls, so shall the world. When me heart ceases to pump blood to my body, it will all come crashing down. As a hunter, we are bound by duty, nay, bound by our very soul to this world. When a hunter dies we feel it, we sense it, and the world trembles with sorrow. When I die, so shall the world, from the shock of loosing such a great part of ones soul." Ezekiel, Okeanos Hunter

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Re: House Bill 1588 is advertised as a background check bill?
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 12:53:24 AM »
 :tup:
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