Jealous Hunters piss me off!!!!!!

[Opportunist]

I used to be very cooperative and forthright with game wardens, but too many times the ones I have met and/or been checked by have been very unproffesional and ignorant to the rules that they are trying to enforce. I show proper ID/licenses/tags but otherwise I don't b/s with them.

I have many friends in law enforcement and don't feel this way towards WSP, County Sherriffs and local city cops, just game wardens. I've met and been checked by game cops in other states Idaho and Colorado that were very professional I don't know what the difference would be why this state's warden's act and treat hunters/fisherman the way they do. An old friend of mine used to work as a bio for WDFW while he was going to college and he would be with game wardens when they checked fisherman, we got into this discussion one night while drinking beer and he felt fisherman were smartasses and lots of times were doing there best to try and get away with something illegal. So maybe it's one of those deals that you have to have walked in the other guys shoes. I don't know, but I still keep my mouth shut. That and alot of gamies are hunters so I don't like giving away my hunting spots.

[WAcoyotehunter]

This is the law folks.
Falfire is correct KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.
Carl

Good Avice Carl- I'll offer one more piece...DON'T BREAK THE DAMN LAWS.

[Fullabull]

OK...let's at least get off of the time of death thing!!! That can not be used as evidence for this at all.... You can shoot an animal before dark and have it still stay alive for hours before it dies and you find it.

This must have to do with a witness or other evidence they have as that is all that would stand up.

Let's hope that it's just a miss understanding or someone was mistaken.

This is why there should be no other firearm season going on at the same time any archery season is open. If you want to hunt cougar or bear during archery season, use that appropriate weapon. I have already heard to many times about people shooting elk with a firearm and then sticking it with an arrow to say they killed it with a bow. Anyone caught doing this sort of thing should "never" be allowed to hunt again as they obviously have no respect for wildlife or the sport of hunting.

PLEASE....my last paragraph has nothing to do with the person this thread is about, it's just a statement about how I feel regarding one of our many regulations.

Good luck to your friend.

Fulla

[SilkWWU]

OK...let's at least get off of the time of death thing!!! That can not be used as evidence for this at all.... You can shoot an animal before dark and have it still stay alive for hours before it dies and you find it.

This must have to do with a witness or other evidence they have as that is all that would stand up.

Let's hope that it's just a miss understanding or someone was mistaken.

This is why there should be no other firearm season going on at the same time any archery season is open. If you want to hunt cougar or bear during archery season, use that appropriate weapon. I have already heard to many times about people shooting elk with a firearm and then sticking it with an arrow to say they killed it with a bow. Anyone caught doing this sort of thing should "never" be allowed to hunt again as they obviously have no respect for wildlife or the sport of hunting.

PLEASE....my last paragraph has nothing to do with the person this thread is about, it's just a statement about how I feel regarding one of our many regulations.

Good luck to your friend.

Fulla

Your opinion concerning eliminating firearms during archery season is unrealistic and selfish.  What about the person who can only go during those seasons and does not shoot a bow.  While I agree that those people should be punished, don't punish the rest of us for someones actions.

I leave for my RIFLE bear hunt tonight.

[WDFW-SUX]

Determining the time of death vs time of shooting is laughable at best....so many factors and the JUDDGMENT of the warden............ good luck with that

I firmly believe the WDFW is totally inept.  We could cut there budget by 95% and there would be no perceptible difference. FEDZILLA need's a diet.

[WAcoyotehunter]

Determining the time of death vs time of shooting is laughable at best....so many factors and the JUDDGMENT of the warden............ good luck with that

I firmly believe the WDFW is totally inept.  We could cut there budget by 95% and there would be no perceptible difference. FEDZILLA need's a diet.

what about all the wildlife areas they manage...the research that goes into season setting...are you going to go volunteer to snoeshoe into Pend Oreille County in February to count deer and figure a sex ratio?  Are you going to do snowshoe hare scat surveys all summer to determine the amount of prey for lynx?  I doubt it. 

I disagree with your statment.  They have a tough job and are trying to please too many groups, but they're not inept. 

[Fullabull]

SilkWWU, you are correct about probably being unrealistic but I'm not being selfish! It's just frustration talking... The good hunters should not be punished for the few bad ones. They just need to make the punishment stiff enough to discourage it.

Regards,

Fulla

[boneaddict]

My butcher requires a tag even if its months later, ground meat in a box to make pepperoni.  I haven't read this whole thread so have no idea ehat you are talking about.  I can imagine though, and it bottles down to cheaters.

[buckhorn2]

I cut up my own elk but take the meat we want to use for hambuger to our butcher. I don;t take the head or horns to them but we give our tag to them and they write the GMU and county and date of kill and keep our tag until we return for our meat. They have a big sheet of paper with all the names of the people who bring game in and it has all the information on it like the sex antler points and everything just like you send in at the end of the year. She says the wardens come in and reguarly check the list.

[boneaddict]

we must use the same butcher.

[GoldTip]

My butcher who has made thuringer for me virtually every year for the last 15 years, actually started requiring a tag for all animals about 4 years ago.  I used to bring my folks meat from Montana and some of my brothers at times, I'd have chunked meat in there from 5-6 different animals at time, and he had to stop taking it.  It was all legal, and we had cut the animals ourselves, but he had to stop unless we had a tag with it.  It even went so far as I took him some year old caribou which had been professionally cut and wrapped in Quebec, with French labels, to get ground into thuringer.  He couldn't take it as I no longer had my tag.  I tried calling the GW to see if they could make an exception, I mean the french labels I felt were pretty obvious, anyway, tried calling and left messages three times, never got a return call.  SO I ended up grinding it myself, but yeah, I don't think a butcher in Spokane will take any meat, chunks or a whole carcas without having the tag.

[WDFW-SUX]

My butcher has never asked for a tag.

I stand by WDFW being a bloated entity. 

[Ray]

I have met some very nice game wardens but anyone with common sense knows that there are bad apples in there. The more and more I hear about firsthand accounts from friends which were negative the more inclined I am to just reserve my right to show my tags and licenses and say nothing more. Bully tactics may work for them but they are also creating a bad name for themselves if they are bullying people without any credible evidence other than vague suspicion. It's called abuse of authority.

[Bofire]

 :)Wacoyotehunter you are correct.

[shorthair-on-point]

I agree that there are a lot of game wardens in this state in particular that are *ss holes. I have hunted in many states and actually enjoyed talking to the wardens in just about every state except this one. They have a tough job but they can still get it done without being jerks. Example: My father and I were up turkey hunting. We were driving down for lunch when we came across the warden pulled over on the side of the road. I slowed to a crawl as I passed him and gave him a nod. He motioned me over. He checked our licenses, guns, made us get out of the vehicle and looked through it. He wrote down our license plate # and wild #'s. A little excessive I thought for someone that could have just driven right by him but whatever not a big deal at this point. 30 min later we had our lunch and were going back up. He was just getting into his truck, saw us coming and swung his truck broadside in the road so we couldn't pass. Once again made us go through the whole dang thing.    Later we ran into him again as we were walking back to my truck this time and he checked us a third time. It was all I could do to not give the guy a piece of my mind the third time.