Dont use Roger Sigler to train your shed DOG!!!

[Johnny2910]

Well Roger should be in PRISON!!!!!  He is the most cowardly, dishonest, disrespectful, and above all thief I have ever done business with.  I recently purchased a dog from this SOB for $6500.00.  Yes $6500.00.  My wife and I did extensive research on this guy and many others before we made our decision.  We talked to him several times and felt he was the right choice.  In January 2012 he let us know that a litter will be here in the next few weeks and we could pick one out. Well we sent our deposit and waited, waited, and waited and finally called him.  Said the litter was gone but would have another in April... I should have backed out then, but decided to move forward.  April came and went and when we called all he had left were 2 yellow male labs.  We told him to choose the better of the two and we would take him.  So the training begins right?? WRONG.  Months passed with no word from Roger.  From time to time we could get ahold of him and he would let us know that the dog was in line to be ready to be fully trained and ready for the 2013 shed season.  A few more months came and went and we got a few YouTube videos of the dog playing and running around but never of him doing what we paid him to train him to do. Well now it’s December 2012 and the dog is almost 9 months old and my kids and wife and myself are getting excited for our new addition to the family to arrive.  Rodger spoke to my wife 2 weeks before we were to pick the dog up and let her know this dog was the best dog he had ever trained and he really didn’t want to give him to us because we couldn’t take care of him the way he should be taken care of but, we were still planning on picking the dog up.  I have a demanding job and is hard for me to get out of the state and take off work.  I had a small window and jumped in the truck and started to head up and get the dog, but half way thru the trip I had to turn around and get back to work.  My wife remembered Roger saying he has shipped dogs all over the country so she called and asked him to ship the dog to us.  Roger declined and said he would not do that and that it is mandatory for clients to be at the facility for a day to work with the dog so since we could not he has decided not to give us the dog and he would train us a new one and would be ready in September 2013. Now I have no problem on driving 2k miles to get this dog, but I don’t know many people that can take off work for that long just to talk to a guy that trained my dog for a few hours.  For $6500 he could have flown to my house if he thinks it’s that easy to take off on a cross country trip, but that was never mentioned.  My wife called me in tears!!!! My little boy was devastated.  Now that’s where I drew the line and told this guy to send my $6500.00 back and we would just get a dog from somewhere else.  My wife wrote him an email and let him know just what kind of ASS he was and he must have felt bad because the dog was on a plane the next day.  When I got home and started playing with him, I noticed that he did not do one thing that I told him (keep in mind Roger has never told me or made one of his many YouTube videos on how to work the dog in the field).  I have received one YouTube video on how the dog sits, heals, lays down, and sits a treat on his nose.  Is this what $6500.00 gets you?  The dog is not house broken, digs holes in the yard, chews everything in sight and still would not do a simple command as load in my truck, even though Rodger let us know he "loaded like a dream".  I decided to work with the dog on my 2 weeks off from work while my family was out of town every single day.  In 2 weeks of constant working with the dog, he still will not sit, heel, load in my truck, but most of all will not retrieve a shed.  We have gone into the fields and he seems to always find cans.  WOW!! So we decided to call him and tell him we wanted our money back and dog would be on next plane out. But he said I will buy him back for half the price you paid for him but will not pay full price.  What kind of man takes another man’s money for a job and when the job is incomplete doesn’t make it right? Makes another man’s wife and kids upset and has no remorse for what he has done.  We love the dog as he is very playful and I know he has it in him to be a great dog, so we have shipped him to another shed hunting trainer to be properly trained. I will write a new post when we get the dog back and let everyone that reads this how it turned out, as my first shed dog experience turned out to be a 1 year nightmare!!!  As of now we are having him house broken, on and off leash trained, trained to load up, shed hunt and to be a bird dog and it will be a 12 week course and half the price!!! If anyone is thinking of getting a shed dog think twice before buying one from Roger and Antler Ridge. 

[huntnnw]

sorry Ill never pay $6500 for a dog! that is absurd

[TheHunt]

WOW, that is a ton of money... 

My wife paid 300 dollars for a Chihuahua.   YIKES!!!  I think that was too much.  But a happy wife is a life.   

[CMG]

Bump. Just to see where this goes 
So many things not quite right here.

[Knocker of rocks]

Well Roger should be in PRISON!!!!!  He is the most cowardly, dishonest, disrespectful, and above all thief I have ever done business with.
 
I recently purchased a dog from this SOB for $6500.00.  Yes $6500.00.  My wife and I did extensive research on this guy and many others before we made our decision.  We talked to him several times and felt he was the right choice.  In January 2012 he let us know that a litter will be here in the next few weeks and we could pick one out. Well we sent our deposit and waited, waited, and waited and finally called him.  Said the litter was gone but would have another in April... I should have backed out then, but decided to move forward. 

April came and went and when we called all he had left were 2 yellow male labs.  We told him to choose the better of the two and we would take him.  So the training begins right?? WRONG.  Months passed with no word from Roger.  From time to time we could get ahold of him and he would let us know that the dog was in line to be ready to be fully trained and ready for the 2013 shed season.  A few more months came and went and we got a few YouTube videos of the dog playing and running around but never of him doing what we paid him to train him to do. Well now it’s December 2012 and the dog is almost 9 months old and my kids and wife and myself are getting excited for our new addition to the family to arrive.  Rodger spoke to my wife 2 weeks before we were to pick the dog up and let her know this dog was the best dog he had ever trained and he really didn’t want to give him to us because we couldn’t take care of him the way he should be taken care of but, we were still planning on picking the dog up. 

I have a demanding job and is hard for me to get out of the state and take off work.  I had a small window and jumped in the truck and started to head up and get the dog, but half way thru the trip I had to turn around and get back to work.  My wife remembered Roger saying he has shipped dogs all over the country so she called and asked him to ship the dog to us.  Roger declined and said he would not do that and that it is mandatory for clients to be at the facility for a day to work with the dog so since we could not he has decided not to give us the dog and he would train us a new one and would be ready in September 2013. Now I have no problem on driving 2k miles to get this dog, but I don’t know many people that can take off work for that long just to talk to a guy that trained my dog for a few hours.  For $6500 he could have flown to my house if he thinks it’s that easy to take off on a cross country trip, but that was never mentioned.  My wife called me in tears!!!! My little boy was devastated.  Now that’s where I drew the line and told this guy to send my $6500.00 back and we would just get a dog from somewhere else. 

My wife wrote him an email and let him know just what kind of ASS he was and he must have felt bad because the dog was on a plane the next day.

When I got home and started playing with him, I noticed that he did not do one thing that I told him (keep in mind Roger has never told me or made one of his many YouTube videos on how to work the dog in the field).  I have received one YouTube video on how the dog sits, heals, lays down, and sits a treat on his nose.  Is this what $6500.00 gets you? 

The dog is not house broken, digs holes in the yard, chews everything in sight and still would not do a simple command as load in my truck, even though Rodger let us know he "loaded like a dream".  I decided to work with the dog on my 2 weeks off from work while my family was out of town every single day.  In 2 weeks of constant working with the dog, he still will not sit, heel, load in my truck, but most of all will not retrieve a shed.  We have gone into the fields and he seems to always find cans.  WOW!!

So we decided to call him and tell him we wanted our money back and dog would be on next plane out. But he said I will buy him back for half the price you paid for him but will not pay full price.  What kind of man takes another man’s money for a job and when the job is incomplete doesn’t make it right? Makes another man’s wife and kids upset and has no remorse for what he has done.  We love the dog as he is very playful and I know he has it in him to be a great dog, so we have shipped him to another shed hunting trainer to be properly trained.

I will write a new post when we get the dog back and let everyone that reads this how it turned out, as my first shed dog experience turned out to be a 1 year nightmare!!!  As of now we are having him house broken, on and off leash trained, trained to load up, shed hunt and to be a bird dog and it will be a 12 week course and half the price!!!

 
If anyone is thinking of getting a shed dog think twice before buying one from Roger and Antler Ridge.

You gotta stop and breath once in a while

[ICEMAN]

Wow Johnny2910, maybe you should keep you money next time and try doing something for yourself?

You are so angry that you post from Texas this complaint? Get a life.

Learn to do for yourself and quit the whining.

Sheds arent worth $6500.  Don't blame the dog next.

[pendoreilleadventures]

It crazy how much people will spend to train a dog. I have trained both of my labs to find horn and it didn't cost a dime. All it takes is time with your animals. Put in the effort and you will be rewarded. I guess you could just drop $6500 on a shed dog not have to do the work yourself. If you want sheds so bad I am sure you could buy a huge pile from ebay for the price your shelling out for training

[Knocker of rocks]

For $6500 the dog should be able to use the inter net himself

[ghosthunter]

Geeez
For that money the dog should be able to drive the friggin truck and make lunch.

[wildweeds]

Seen this exact scenario in action right in the Jet city,except for the jet city bandit didn't return calls or emails and was sued several times to get money back and papers on a dog.Way overpriced and riddled with hip dysplasia,and supposedly trained in a program.

 As to your actual dealings,

  Was it stated that the dog would be housebroken?

Are you dog savvy or is this your first dog and you are impatient?

There should be a getting to know one another phase upon receipt of the dog before you start trying to make it do to much.

Holes in the yard? All dogs dig,it's part of the deal,they've dug for centuries and will continue to do so as they are a den animal,and that instinct can't be bred out of them................. one word, Cement kennel ,another word " NO!" when you catch him digging in the yard while supervised.

Dogs can be very "Place" oriented which is why the man wanted you to come and pick the dog up,so that you could see the dog worked in it's comfortable area where it was trained.You would have seen the dog more than likely flawlessly in the area it has been trained for months and months on end, it's your responsibility to remember what you've seen the dog do and what body language/commands got the desired response.It is then your job to expand the desired response to different locations.

9 months old is actually still a pup IMO.

[Knocker of rocks]

Geeez
For that money the dog should be able to drive the friggin truck and make lunch.

Dogs are color blind and have poor hygene.  I wouldn't want them making lunch and driving.

[sirmissalot]

How could you spend that kind of money and not even go meet the guy? I'm driving to Wyoming to pick up my new pup this weekend, been in touch with the breeder since the mother was knocked up. Sorry but you'll get no sympathy from me, something doesn't seem right here.

[h20hunter]

There has got to be a lot more than this. I bet if you just start surfing forums he joined simply to to post the rant and never come back.

[norsepeak]

could have bought a truck load of sheds and got a good family dog at the pound for that kind of coin.

[h2ofowlr]

Way to much for a dog!