Possible Poaching in enumclaw 3/4

[Sniper101]

if it was illegal they wouldn't be doing it in the middle of the day, right next to the ROAD, and the farmer probally wouldn't be helping. Farmers arnt stupid about things like this, one wouldn't do something that stupid. You don't need to waste the oficials time and get in the farmers hair about somthin on HIS property that is absolutley none of your business. Does that cow elk dying in that farmers field effect you at all?? Probally not, doubt you would of had the chance to shoot it.

[skywalker253]

if it was illegal they wouldn't be doing it in the middle of the day, right next to the ROAD, and the farmer probally wouldn't be helping. Farmers arnt stupid about things like this, one wouldn't do something that stupid. You don't need to waste the oficials time and get in the farmers hair about somthin on HIS property that is absolutley none of your business. Does that cow elk dying in that farmers field effect you at all?? Probally not, doubt you would of had the chance to shoot it.

As soon as I see the farmer helping, that would tell me that it is likely a legal harvest. I don't blame the guy for calling the game department, considering it was in March. How often have any of us on Hunt-Wa seen a deprivation hunt take place; unless you were apart of it? I am guessing only a few people have actually witnessed one take place. I would not have called it in with the farmer there; however had he not been present I would have definately called it in. No harm, no foul, and you did the right thing. I don't think the guy was searching for poacher points. He was doing the right thing and trying to protect the reputation of our fellow hunters. Give the guy a break...

[Dan-o]

BREAKING NEWS:   Possible Legal hunt in enumclaw

[skywalker253]

if it was illegal they wouldn't be doing it in the middle of the day, right next to the ROAD, and the farmer probally wouldn't be helping. Farmers arnt stupid about things like this, one wouldn't do something that stupid. You don't need to waste the oficials time and get in the farmers hair about somthin on HIS property that is absolutley none of your business. Does that cow elk dying in that farmers field effect you at all?? Probally not, doubt you would of had the chance to shoot it.

And the first part of your post, is a very naive statement. You would be suprised how careless and stupid people can be. I turned a guy in this year that poached a deer in front of at least 20 other hunters. All the hunters were looking at eachother in dis-belief. The incident happened 100 yards from 2 main intersecting roads, which are like a freeway during hunting season. The guy flat shot the deer and kept walking, while laughing and joking with his KIDS! as if it was no big deal. Not to mention he was firing rounds towards the main power grid for PSE with workers present, tresspassing, etc. The farmer and fellow hunters were very grateful I turned the guy in for his stupidity and poor example he illistrated for his kids. What was has been posted a "no hunting" area for years, will now potentially become open by "written permission". I have been working with the land owner since the incident in hopes he will open up some of his ground to us hunters.

[stormin85]

i guess i should have made it more clear, i called wdfw before i saw anyone near the elk, it just had an arrow in it i was going to notify them of a dead elk, then the couple on the bike came over to me and said they had already contacted the sheriff, so since i was getting nobody i left it at that, my first and only concern was the elk with the arrow in it, then what happened afterwards did not involve me, nobody was in the field or near there for about another ten minutes when they came out with the ag tractor.

that is where my questions came in, i did not think a farmer would be that careless, to haul an illegally harvested elk near a road in the middle of the day/afternoon, but i wasn't sure. i wasn't trying to get into anybody's business, and i wasn't ripping on the hunter for wearing camo there was sarcasm on my part because i thought he might be poaching and was just making a joke as to why wear camo to poach elk that are pretty used to the sight of people, not to make an argument of camo, no camo, whether it works, if its pointless, just a sarcastic remark.

i understand now there is a unit open, however i did not know there was any hunting into march, now i know.

without question this herd needs to be thinned, and unfortunately for this farmer and hunter it probably didn't go how they hoped, we all know even with a good shot sometimes these things run a ways, maybe thats why it got so close to the road, i know they wouldn't want all of the attention they got. but i am sure it was as ethical as possible, but again understand where my question came from, i just wasn't sure, next time i wont put any pointless commentary or sarcasm in.

and even if i had turned in what looked like a poacher, i didn't want or need any points i dont put in for draws, the only reason i called was there was a dead elk, but according to the couple it was being handled. and when the wdfw arrived he made it sound as if he would handle what had happened, that could mean either thing, take care of the upset couple because they were in shock from seeing a dead animal, or take care of the guy who shot it, but not knowing the situation it was left at that. thats where the question of legality came up, because before this to my knowledge, everything was closed.

hopefully everyone understands what im saying didn't want to get people pissed off, but thats on me.

regardless, sounds like this was all legal and glad to see someone get some meat.

[skywalker253]

i guess i should have made it more clear, i called wdfw before i saw anyone near the elk, it just had an arrow in it i was going to notify them of a dead elk, then the couple on the bike came over to me and said they had already contacted the sheriff, so since i was getting nobody i left it at that, my first and only concern was the elk with the arrow in it, then what happened afterwards did not involve me, nobody was in the field or near there for about another ten minutes when they came out with the ag tractor.

that is where my questions came in, i did not think a farmer would be that careless, to haul an illegally harvested elk near a road in the middle of the day/afternoon, but i wasn't sure. i wasn't trying to get into anybody's business, and i wasn't ripping on the hunter for wearing camo there was sarcasm on my part because i thought he might be poaching and was just making a joke as to why wear camo to poach elk that are pretty used to the sight of people, not to make an argument of camo, no camo, whether it works, if its pointless, just a sarcastic remark.

i understand now there is a unit open, however i did not know there was any hunting into march, now i know.

without question this herd needs to be thinned, and unfortunately for this farmer and hunter it probably didn't go how they hoped, we all know even with a good shot sometimes these things run a ways, maybe thats why it got so close to the road, i know they wouldn't want all of the attention they got. but i am sure it was as ethical as possible, but again understand where my question came from, i just wasn't sure, next time i wont put any pointless commentary or sarcasm in.

and even if i had turned in what looked like a poacher, i didn't want or need any points i dont put in for draws, the only reason i called was there was a dead elk, but according to the couple it was being handled. and when the wdfw arrived he made it sound as if he would handle what had happened, that could mean either thing, take care of the upset couple because they were in shock from seeing a dead animal, or take care of the guy who shot it, but not knowing the situation it was left at that. thats where the question of legality came up, because before this to my knowledge, everything was closed.

hopefully everyone understands what im saying didn't want to get people pissed off, but thats on me.

regardless, sounds like this was all legal and glad to see someone get some meat.

Don't feel bad and you don't need to apologize for anything. Public forums are full of meatballs, who know everything about everything. Everyone has an opinion of what is right or wrong in their mind, and you definately won't change their minds on here. You will find Hunt-Wa has several know it all's, who spend more time on here then in the woods hunting. I started reading this site in 2007 as a non-member and thought it was a joke. Then I decided some of it is actually worth reading. Then I joined last Fall and voiced a few opinions and made a few comments. Some agreed with; some not. Now I just say what I want and I don't care if I piss off the entire forum.

[kirkl]

Dont sweat it on this forum, ur damned if ya do and damned if you dont. These know it alls would be saying why didnt you call the gamie if you woulda said you just drove off after seein what you did.

[sakoshooter]

i guess i should have made it more clear, i called wdfw before i saw anyone near the elk, it just had an arrow in it i was going to notify them of a dead elk, then the couple on the bike came over to me and said they had already contacted the sheriff, so since i was getting nobody i left it at that, my first and only concern was the elk with the arrow in it, then what happened afterwards did not involve me, nobody was in the field or near there for about another ten minutes when they came out with the ag tractor.

that is where my questions came in, i did not think a farmer would be that careless, to haul an illegally harvested elk near a road in the middle of the day/afternoon, but i wasn't sure. i wasn't trying to get into anybody's business, and i wasn't ripping on the hunter for wearing camo there was sarcasm on my part because i thought he might be poaching and was just making a joke as to why wear camo to poach elk that are pretty used to the sight of people, not to make an argument of camo, no camo, whether it works, if its pointless, just a sarcastic remark.

i understand now there is a unit open, however i did not know there was any hunting into march, now i know.

without question this herd needs to be thinned, and unfortunately for this farmer and hunter it probably didn't go how they hoped, we all know even with a good shot sometimes these things run a ways, maybe thats why it got so close to the road, i know they wouldn't want all of the attention they got. but i am sure it was as ethical as possible, but again understand where my question came from, i just wasn't sure, next time i wont put any pointless commentary or sarcasm in.

and even if i had turned in what looked like a poacher, i didn't want or need any points i dont put in for draws, the only reason i called was there was a dead elk, but according to the couple it was being handled. and when the wdfw arrived he made it sound as if he would handle what had happened, that could mean either thing, take care of the upset couple because they were in shock from seeing a dead animal, or take care of the guy who shot it, but not knowing the situation it was left at that. thats where the question of legality came up, because before this to my knowledge, everything was closed.

hopefully everyone understands what im saying didn't want to get people pissed off, but thats on me.

regardless, sounds like this was all legal and glad to see someone get some meat.

I commend you for calling the law. Too many folks don't get involved. They just post opinions on forums.
We've got to protect this sport of ours at all costs.

[Sniper101]

if it was illegal they wouldn't be doing it in the middle of the day, right next to the ROAD, and the farmer probally wouldn't be helping. Farmers arnt stupid about things like this, one wouldn't do something that stupid. You don't need to waste the oficials time and get in the farmers hair about somthin on HIS property that is absolutley none of your business. Does that cow elk dying in that farmers field effect you at all?? Probally not, doubt you would of had the chance to shoot it.

And the first part of your post, is a very naive statement. You would be suprised how careless and stupid people can be. I turned a guy in this year that poached a deer in front of at least 20 other hunters. All the hunters were looking at eachother in dis-belief. The incident happened 100 yards from 2 main intersecting roads, which are like a freeway during hunting season. The guy flat shot the deer and kept walking, while laughing and joking with his KIDS! as if it was no big deal. Not to mention he was firing rounds towards the main power grid for PSE with workers present, tresspassing, etc. The farmer and fellow hunters were very grateful I turned the guy in for his stupidity and poor example he illistrated for his kids. What was has been posted a "no hunting" area for years, will now potentially become open by "written permission". I have been working with the land owner since the incident in hopes he will open up some of his ground to us hunters.

but the farmer wasnt helping, was he? No. if the farmers helping in the harvest on his own land then chances are nothings wrong. Who knows how that elk could of been effecting the farmers crops.

[baker5150]

THats a tough situation to be in. Especially if your a hunter yourself.

Instinctivlly I would call the local Gamie, but at the same time in hindsight if it were me shooting the elk, legally of course, I would be a bit upset if onlookers started in on me about poaching. 

[Muleyhunter47]

I live in this area see the heard of elk everyday. I know for a fact they give out degradation permits. However weather or not he had one is the questions and i have not heard of hunting elk in march even with this permit.

[dreamunelk]

Reporting was the correct thing to do.  Let WDFW officers determine if it was legit or not.   My be is it was but,  You never know.  There are some stupid people out there.

[Old Mule]

Just a couple of comments, good for you for calling, also those Elk aren't that tame when they get Hunting pressure they smarten up quick.  I would like to see permits that all can apply for not just the Master Hunters, when they moved the White River boundary south the Heard started growing sometimes I see over 100 Elk in the morning, It's better to have someone harvest them than to have the City of Buckley take them with the Backhoe  and dump them in the woods when they get hit by Cars.

[Hawgdawg]

Good Morning!
Ole Mule...you just wake up out of hibernation? This thread is a month old. The legit hunter and farmer have eaten most of that grain fed cow by now, they just haven't got over the do gooders that ruined there day.