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why b 9 mm?
« on: March 19, 2013, 10:16:41 PM »
  why in the world would anyone buy a 9 mm gun?  people are selling the gun for more than it sells for at gunshops and gunbroker, gallery of guns, etc.  and it is the one bullet you can not get and it sells out first.  it is crazy.  i bought a new xdm for $500 and sold it for $650.  plum crazy?  mike w

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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2013, 10:23:54 PM »
With modern ammo a 9mm is a lot more gun than it used to be.

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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2013, 10:34:41 PM »
the 9 is a hotload .38 by any other name- not really a powerhouse, but ammo is (normally) very common, and cheaper than ammo for about anything else. combine that commonality and availability with recoil about anyone can handle, and most service size guns having a capacity of 15+.. and you have a handgun that is pretty good to have around in rough times. and yes the 9 has changed from the days when hollowpoints couldnt be counted on to expand reliably..

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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2013, 10:37:16 PM »
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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2013, 11:09:06 PM »
  why in the world would anyone buy a 9 mm gun?  people are selling the gun for more than it sells for at gunshops and gunbroker, gallery of guns, etc.  and it is the one bullet you can not get and it sells out first.  it is crazy.  i bought a new xdm for $500 and sold it for $650.  plum crazy?  mike w
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Were you bored when you posted this?
I mean, you did buy one yourself and then proved your own point of your question as to why things sell on gunbroker, gun shops, etc. for the crazy prices.
Congrats on your +$150 flip of your XDM.
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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2013, 11:54:18 PM »
  why in the world would anyone buy a 9 mm gun?  people are selling the gun for more than it sells for at gunshops and gunbroker, gallery of guns, etc.  and it is the one bullet you can not get and it sells out first.  it is crazy.  i bought a new xdm for $500 and sold it for $650.  plum crazy?  mike w
Why not?  Usually cheap ammo and highly available everywhere you go.  Low recoil in a small package.  The felt recoil between a subcompact 9 and the same sized 45 is going to be quite a bit different.  I have both and love them both.  9 as my carry gun, and the 45 comes out of the safe every once in awhile for various occasions.  I wouldn't hesitate to use the 9 in a self defense situation.  Also, every caliber right now is selling as soon as it hits the shelves.  :twocents:

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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2013, 04:31:21 AM »
Better concealability. Deadly enough.
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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2013, 06:09:07 AM »
Two in the chest from a 9 or 45 you're just as dead.

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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2013, 06:22:34 AM »
Like I have said before Mybrother has told me of times where shooting
 A enemy with 9mmwould not put them down and they continue to shoot back
Iwill take the advise from a man who had first hand seen what a9 mm will and will not
 Do.9mm or a 380 you can not give me one.wimpy and when my life counts on it
I know a lot people will be on here saying what a great round it is ,For popping paper maybe.self defense Noway.

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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2013, 07:32:36 AM »
Two in the chest from a 9 or 45 you're just as dead.
Definitely more deader when it's a .45. Not sure what you're thinking there.
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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2013, 07:45:23 AM »
Two in the chest from a 9 or 45 you're just as dead.
Definitely more deader when it's a .45. Not sure what you're thinking there.

sorry I guess I really don't have any first hand experience with being shot in the chest with either.  Plan to keep it that way I hope.

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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2013, 07:50:12 AM »
Like I have said before Mybrother has told me of times where shooting
 A enemy with 9mmwould not put them down and they continue to shoot back
Iwill take the advise from a man who had first hand seen what a9 mm will and will not
 Do.9mm or a 380 you can not give me one.wimpy and when my life counts on it
I know a lot people will be on here saying what a great round it is ,For popping paper maybe.self defense Noway.

Was this the military?  If so, they were using FMJ 9mm ball ammo.  No expansion and almost 100% complete pass through.  Much different than JHP that is avalible today.

.45 ball ammo would probably act about the same as your buddy saw with the 9mm
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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2013, 07:56:02 AM »
Federal HST in 9mm and .45



Considering I can pack twice as many rounds of 9mm at half the recoil of a .45, personally, I'm ok with .08" smaller hole.

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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2013, 07:59:59 AM »
Great pic double J......as stated....with good hollow points, not FMJ, the 9 has many advantages for carry and defensive purposes.

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Re: why b 9 mm?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2013, 08:12:47 AM »
The 45 has the legendary status of being a sledgehammer, but truth is, I doubt a person shot in the chest would really be able to tell the difference. With a pistol, it still comes down to shot placement. I like both rounds, but in a carry gun, I would rather have a few extra 9’s than a smaller number of big 45’s. You might be the opposite. Either way, both rounds have brought down baddies and both rounds have failed to bring down baddies, depending on the situation.

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