camo pissing me off

[KFhunter]

I do the same thing as you. I spent a ton of hours researching every camo option out there from both fo Sitka's offerings, Kuiu's Vias and Verde, and all the other ones. I was determined that money would be no object and I would get exactly what I wanted to hunt in for the next 3-5 years. I almost went with Kuiu's Verde but in the end I actually arrive at ASAT camo and bought the whole First Lite line. To me on the surface I think it is pretty ugly, but I'm not trying to impress or look cool to other people, I want to hide from Elk. I came to the conclusion that ASAT was the best possible option out there for me and how I hunt. Spend some time researching it and you might come to the same conclusion.

I like the ASAT stuff, but I wish the white areas were darker - and maybe green.

[bowhunterty]

Probably should have added I use Sitka Open Country for all my hunting be it forest or open sage brush. Killed two bulls last two years with it.

[hughjorgan]

I do the same thing as you. I spent a ton of hours researching every camo option out there from both fo Sitka's offerings, Kuiu's Vias and Verde, and all the other ones. I was determined that money would be no object and I would get exactly what I wanted to hunt in for the next 3-5 years. I almost went with Kuiu's Verde but in the end I actually arrive at ASAT camo and bought the whole First Lite line. To me on the surface I think it is pretty ugly, but I'm not trying to impress or look cool to other people, I want to hide from Elk. I came to the conclusion that ASAT was the best possible option out there for me and how I hunt. Spend some time researching it and you might come to the same conclusion.

I like the ASAT stuff, but I wish the white areas were darker - and maybe green.

ASAT works great. There is no white in that pattern, just tan, black and brown. Are you thinking of predator camo that has white in it.

[Wanttohuntmore]

I'll recommend First Lite as well, getting to be a real fan of wool.  No more synthetics against my skin.

[KFhunter]

I do the same thing as you. I spent a ton of hours researching every camo option out there from both fo Sitka's offerings, Kuiu's Vias and Verde, and all the other ones. I was determined that money would be no object and I would get exactly what I wanted to hunt in for the next 3-5 years. I almost went with Kuiu's Verde but in the end I actually arrive at ASAT camo and bought the whole First Lite line. To me on the surface I think it is pretty ugly, but I'm not trying to impress or look cool to other people, I want to hide from Elk. I came to the conclusion that ASAT was the best possible option out there for me and how I hunt. Spend some time researching it and you might come to the same conclusion.

I like the ASAT stuff, but I wish the white areas were darker - and maybe green.

ASAT works great. There is no white in that pattern, just tan, black and brown. Are you thinking of predator camo that has white in it.

I was just wishing it had more green in there, but I'm sure that would work fine.

[hughjorgan]

Deer and elk are color blind for the most part, so get a camo that breaks your outline up well.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Do you really think the pattern has to match perfectly?

I don't  think one would want to wear desert camo in the woods or vice versa.

But I wear all different types of forest types in the woods ie missed matched shirts pants, and have put the sneak on lots of critters.

He'll I even treed a bear once I snuck up on, that was the last time he got blamed for being a  he was yummy! 

I think sent control and movement will give you away long before non-matching camo will! 

yeah thats it  Heck ...I usually take a shower with Ivory soap before I head out hunting ...never have much trouble sneaking up on anything ...maybe an orange jacket and a red hat will help too !!

[JLS]

What about the new Kuiu Verde pattern?

Okay, I'm confused.  You don't want to sit on yer a$$, but you don't want mountain top stuff

the verde is about perfect


Is the stuff quiet in the brush?  I'd like fleece or wool quiet if possible

If you want fleece, look at the Predator Camo and check out Day One.

[KFhunter]

UV brightners is what I worry about with deer
K9's have some limited color vision.

turkeys have pretty good color vision

[huntnnw]

Sounds more like what u wanna see in a pattern than what its actual purpose is...break up your outline...u could wear bright pink and white in a pattern and it would still serve its purpose. Most guys are in a fashion show before they hit the woulds.

[yajsab]

I suggest looking at the material that suits your need.  Pattern to me, doesn't matter much.  I do own Sitka, Russell, Kuiu, First Lite and others.  I like the fit of Sitka, Russell and Kuiu.  I bow hunt and killed my shares.  You're not going to get fleece or wool quiet with synthetic.  But the three names I mentioned are pretty quiet depending on what layer you choose.  Kryptek is reasonably priced and good that you can check them out in Cabelas.  There are other popular brands online, but have no way of seeing the actual product before buying.

Can't go wrong with some of the popular names mentioned.

[KFhunter]

I'm gonna try some first lite wool for now.

The wool will be really nice under my winter and rain gear I already have. 

[Wanttohuntmore]

I don't think the pattern matters as much either, as long as it breaks up your outline.  I'm more concerned with material and fit.

[Sliverslinger]

I do the same thing as you. I spent a ton of hours researching every camo option out there from both fo Sitka's offerings, Kuiu's Vias and Verde, and all the other ones. I was determined that money would be no object and I would get exactly what I wanted to hunt in for the next 3-5 years. I almost went with Kuiu's Verde but in the end I actually arrive at ASAT camo and bought the whole First Lite line. To me on the surface I think it is pretty ugly, but I'm not trying to impress or look cool to other people, I want to hide from Elk. I came to the conclusion that ASAT was the best possible option out there for me and how I hunt. Spend some time researching it and you might come to the same conclusion.

I like the ASAT stuff, but I wish the white areas were darker - and maybe green.

I can't think of one predator or one prey mammal that has green as a component of it's natural camouflage.  Some insects and lizards do, but they are trying to hide from bird who see in color and often very sharply. Ungulates do see some color spectrums, but not true green. Think of what colors grouse and deer have that allows them to hide and blend in so well, blacks, browns, and tans or light colors.

[yajsab]

If you just want wool under garment, see if Russell meets your need.

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&N=0&fsch=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=russell&x=0&y=0&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products