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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2013, 05:40:24 PM »
heard rjeid changed his yea vote to a nay at last minute to keep it allive somehow?
so lets hope this dies all together now and if it come up again kill it hen too.
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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2013, 05:46:47 PM »
 From Senator Johanns (R Nebraska) this afternoon


Senator Johanns e-Update
April 17, 2013

Today, I cosponsored an amendment that is an alternative to Majority Leader Harry Reid's (D-Nev.) gun control legislation. This substitute amendment, introduced by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), would have kept guns out of the hands of people who should not have them while respecting the Second Amendment right of law-abiding Americans.

The bill would have protected private firearms transfers from mandatory background checks by continuing the practice of allowing firearms to be transferred between family members, neighbors and close friends without the need for FBI approval. It also included commonsense provisions to address the causes of gun-related violence. One of those provisions was a bill
http://www.johanns.senate.gov/public/?p=PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=7659d149-735e-43e7-b133-e8d0698c7619&ContentType_id=bc82adff-27b4-4832-8fd6-aecbe3e7d8e3
 I introduced earlier this year that would improve current mental health laws by ensuring law enforcement officials are able to help those with mental illnesses receive the services they need.

We owe it to the victims of gun violence and their families to pursue policies that actually address the underlying causes of these atrocities. We also owe it to all Americans to protect the rights guaranteed by the Constitution. This amendment would have balanced both of these needs. Unfortunately, it failed to pass by a vote of 48-52.

Earlier today I spoke on the Senate floor. Click HERE to watch me discuss the amendment I cosponsored and Senator Reid's gun control bill before the Senate.

http://www.johanns.senate.gov/public/?p=VideoClips&ContentRecord_id=55e6d307-0da7-4585-bcf0-029bf24a2bcd&ContentType_id=d4f8bed8-f249-4640-b5b1-874dada9c4c8
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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2013, 05:54:09 PM »
get rid of gun fre zones don't take our rights away.  :hello:
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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2013, 06:03:58 PM »
Gun Owners of America

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We Won a Stunning Victory Today!

"Schumer's spokesman Brian Fallon took note of Gun Owners of America's role in the debate, tweeting a link to the [New York] Times profile and saying the group 'is making deal on even background checks extremely hard.'" - TPM Media, "Democrats Blame Gun Owners of America for Gun Control Setback," April 8, 2013

You guys did it. We all did it - together!

For four months, the laughing hyenas on MSNBC and in the White House have been cackling hysterically about the "bitter clingers" who actually own guns and value the Second Amendment.

Well, who's laughing now?

The TPM quote above indicated - more than a week ago - that things weren't going well for anti-gun Democrats. The New York Times also lamented on April 3 that:

The group [GOA] has already been successful in both freezing senators, particularly Republicans, who have appeared to be on the fence about supporting bills to expand background checks.

Have you ever wondered if your activism makes any difference at all? Well, today, you saw a dramatic answer to that question, as we won an incredible victory.

You guys scorched the Senate offices with phone calls. Many of you reported to us that their phones were ringing endlessly (as they were busy handling other calls) ... that in many cases your Senator's mailboxes were full ... and in some cases, that they even hung up on you.

Today was a textbook example of how grassroots activism makes a difference! But even still, you can be sure that the gun grabbers will be back soon, trying hard to resurrect this issue.

And that's why your GOA will remain ever vigilant and will alert you to any proposed infringements of your liberty.

Here are the highlights of what happened today:

(1) The most important vote was the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer national gun registry proposal. With 60 votes needed for passage, the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer amendment was shot down by a vote of 54-46.

GOA and NRA strongly opposed the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer amendment. But we were surprised to see that another gun group - not only said they supported the Toomey language, but - said they helped write the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer text. Thankfully, their support for this gun control language was not enough to get it passed.

(2) The Cornyn-Vitter-Thune amendment - pushed hard by Gun Owners of America - received a 57-43 vote (so we fell three votes short since 60 were needed). This provision would have allowed concealed carry holders and persons in constitutional carry states to carry nationwide. The overwhelming vote on this amendment sets the stage for bringing it up again and again on must-pass legislation.

(3) As predicted, the Feinstein gun ban lost by a vote of 40-60 - falling far short of a majority - and the magazine ban lost by a vote of 46-54.

Today is a day to celebrate! We thank God for all of you and for all the Help that we have received in this long struggle to stop infringements of our liberties.

Here's what is still left for tomorrow.

Harry Reid's bill (S. 649) is still on the floor of the Senate, and there are two scheduled votes that will take place tomorrow. Eventually, the Senate will vote on whether to end debate on the bill (known as cloture), but that vote won't necessarily take place tomorrow. The Senate will need 60 votes to end debate, but if they can't reach that threshold, the bill effectively dies.

So GOA is telling Senators to vote AGAINST cloture on the bill, whenever that vote comes.

ACTION: We think that we can defeat cloture on final passage of the bill. But, to be safe, GOA is encouraging activists to contact their Senators and urge them oppose cloture! You can reach them at 202-224-3121.
 
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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2013, 10:13:37 PM »
 :cryriver: :cryriver:

What a little baby. I didnt get what I wanted so Im gonna cry about it and stomp off the playground. Instead of whining about it he should have said the process worked as it should have and it didnt go as he wanted.

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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2013, 10:18:22 PM »
The pic of Biden with the clenched lips and folded arms is classic. :chuckle:
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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2013, 10:20:05 PM »
The pic of Biden with the clenched lips and folded arms is classic. :chuckle:
He is pointing like that through the entire speach.
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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2013, 10:20:41 PM »
All I can see faces are FAKE!   :tup:  They all just want MONEY from all profits.

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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2013, 10:27:04 PM »
And Giffords looks like a bobblehead, nodding the entire time.
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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2013, 10:39:55 PM »
"We won, you lost" may have worked for him for a while, but not now.
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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2013, 10:42:40 PM »
Christopher Dorner passed some of the most in depth background checks imaginable. Just saying.....

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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2013, 10:47:15 PM »
Love Biden's expression!
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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2013, 11:03:03 PM »
I just listened to this briefing and all I heard was...

"You need to do this..."

"You need to do that...."

"You NRA members need to tell your legislators how upset you are..."  What? Is he serious?  Don't try to brainwash me with your stupid progressive jedi mind-tricks...

Blah, blah, blah...





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Re: Senate Background Check Gun Bill Defeated
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2013, 11:37:06 PM »
What i find laughable is how he's trying to make believe he's a moderate. If he would of not fallen off the deep end when he started the process he might of had something to show for it. But he wanted gun control so severe at the start of the process that it even scared the moderates.  It's pretty interesting how his team continues to believe they have the public behind these ideas they float. Then realize after the fact they are totally clueless what the average american really wants. I guess that's the price when you keep all these polictical operatives by your side whose view of america has been out of an office window in washington dc.
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