He was right where the big bull had been seen several times so I'm pretty sure its the same one, we are contemplating going to look for his sheds, they have to be right in the same general area. The pedicles are huge and still bloody. We called Joe and waited for him to get there before we did anything. He said it is most definatly a mature bull and would have been a shooter had we found him with his head gear.
As it turned out it was a good choice to pull out of there and wait till morning. He had gone a ways and bedded down between that tree and log, he died in his bed. If he had enough energy to bed down rather than just fall over, he would have had enough to go farther if pushed.