Weyerhauser Charging

[matt345]

I received a message from the WDFW today that some of my permits were applied for in areas that Weyerhauser has land. I hunt sometimes in GMU 506 and they are saying that they may begin charging for access. Anybody know how I can find out what areas they are charging for access ??

[janttihunter]

Vail and Pe Ell tree farms.

[matt345]

Neither of those are in 506 are they??

I am wondering how to find out what areas in Willapa Hills and the other Units that they referenced in the email are charging and were to find info about the fee and access??

[spotter26]

some of 506 is part of the pe ell/macdonald tree farm operation the affected gmu are 501 506 530 672 667 if you call the weyco rec. hotline they break it down for ya $200 per permit

[bobcat]

I think pretty much all Weyerhaeuser land in 506 and 530 will require the access permit.

[matt345]

The other issue w this is for those of us who have applied for permits in those units and if drawn now are dealing w the dilemma of whether they are able to get their hands on one of those access permits! Also having never purchased one, are they only valud for one person or one vehicle??

[spotter26]

i would like to know this one too if you draw a permit but cant get in what is the wdfw going to do.

Especially right now we have to have our permits in, in may and weyco doesnt even have there website up to be able to try to get a permit.

[bobcat]

i would like to know this one too if you draw a permit but cant get in what is the wdfw going to do.

Especially right now we have to have our permits in, in may and weyco doesnt even have there website up to be able to try to get a permit.

The affected GMU's all have other land to hunt besides Weyerhaeuser. But I could see a problem if St Helens tree farm becomes a fee hunting area.

[spotter26]

i would like to know this one too if you draw a permit but cant get in what is the wdfw going to do.

Especially right now we have to have our permits in, in may and weyco doesnt even have there website up to be able to try to get a permit.

The affected GMU's all have other land to hunt besides Weyerhaeuser. But I could see a problem if St Helens tree farm becomes a fee hunting area.

true, vail is going to be a tough one also. it does seem that the wdfw has most of their permit hunting in the boisfort/pe ell area on sierra pacific land anymore though. Lincoln creek area permits are usually the whole gmu, which has a fair amount of st land.

[JBar]

WDFW sent me an email warning me that they are charging for access and if you can't secure access or plan on hunting outside the tree farms don't apply. WDFW won't do squat for you if you apply get drawn and cant get a permit. Funny part is the web site to purchase won't be up until June 1 according to Weyer web site and permits are due May 22nd. Sounds like alot of Weyer employees will be drawing permits!

[matt345]

If you buy a permit who are they valid for?  One person one car ??

[bobcat]

If you buy a permit who are they valid for?  One person one car ??

One person and a spouse, and any children under 18.

[grundy53]

If you buy a permit who are they valid for?  One person one car ??

One person and a spouse, and any children under 18.

Also any grandchildren under 18.

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[Fullabull]

The only time I hunt 530 is during late archery, I guess I won't be doing that anymore... No way I'm going to pay that amount of money to hunt a couple of days. I think it will keep a lot of hunters from hunting there.

[Fullabull]

Who owns unit 520? that is where I usually go for late season.

[spotter26]

gmu 520 i know some is weyco and there is some state but i dont know who own how much, and i think some other timber companys own some as well

[bobcat]

Of the huntable land in the Winston, I'd guess that Weyerhaeuser owns about 85%, DNR maybe 10%, Port Blakely 5%.

[spotter26]

hope this helps this is the transcript from weycos recreation hotline regarding the pe ell area and the fees.

Thanks for calling the Recreational Access Hotline for Weyerhaeuser’s Pe Ell area operations.
Please listen carefully as our message has changed. This message is being recorded on April
18, 2013. You can view the same message at www.WY.com/AccessWA
Currently, the Pe Ell operating area uses a colored dot system to indicate the level of access
allowed. Each gate has a sign posted with a colored dot and an explanation of the access
level indicated by the dot color.
A green dot indicates that the area is:
 Open to the public for motorized and non-m0torized access during daylight hours
only.
A red dot indicates that the area is:
 Closed to motorized access.
 However, non-motorized uses such as hiking, horseback riding, and bicycling are
allowed.
A yellow dot is much like the green dot but allows motorized access only on weekends
during daylight hours.
Regardless of the dot color, we do have a few other rules that you need to follow:
o NO littering or trash dumping.
o All vehicles must remain on improved roads.
o No firewood or other forest products removal with the exception of berries and
mushrooms for personal consumption.
o Obey all signs and don’t block the gates.
We do not sell or give firewood permits.
Here’s the new part of the message:
Starting August 1
st, there will be a new access policy at our Pe Ell Operations. Access to most
lands in the Pe Ell area will require a recreation permit from August 1st to December 31st
.
Permits will be sold on-line only starting June 1st. The web page is a work-in-progress at this
time and is not operational. The web site is www.WYRecreationNW.com and should be
operational on June 1st
.
A maximum of 650 permits will be sold at Pe Ell. Permits cost $200. One permit covers
legally married spouses and children & grandchildren age 18 and under. Permit holders will
have access (including motorized access) 7 days per week from August to December to
~118,000 acres near Pe Ell – including the Stillman/Willapa Hills area south of hwy. 6, the Harp
Road block, and both the Lincoln Creek & Bunker Creek blocks. Entry starts 1-1/2 half hours
before sunrise and ends 1-1/2 hours after sunset. Camping, with restrictions and rules, will be allowed for permit purchasers. WY still reserves the right to close the tree farm in times of
high fire danger.
For those that don’t want to purchase a permit, ~56,375 acres around Doty/Coyote Crest will
remain open with no permit required for access. We will continue to allow camping in this
area starting the Friday before modern rifle deer season – subject to closure for extended
fire season.
~5,300 acres in 3 separate tracts (the Blockhouse, Elk Creek, and Ingalls Road) will be
available for lease by bidding at the new web site. Leases allow for exclusive use of a
particular tract. Purchase of leases is by a bidding process on the new web page.
This message is intended to answer MANY questions regarding RECREATION access. Due to
the volume and variety of questions about specific areas, we will NOT respond to individual
access questions. More information will be available in the next few weeks, so keep calling
the hotline or checking the web page.
To return to the previous menu press *. You can then press 3 for a list of stores that sell
PeEll area maps.