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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2013, 05:37:24 PM »
you might try the reduced recoil, my son was similar size 2 years ago, he could shoot those pretty good without worrying about flinching
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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2013, 05:43:30 PM »
130 grain Nosler Partition.

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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2013, 06:59:53 PM »
I will look at the partitions weight retention and BC numbers.  If anyone has those numbers that would be great. 

If he kept the 243,  what bullet and weight should I be looking at?

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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2013, 07:07:03 PM »
Partition's BC is fairly low, being a lead tipped bullet. Partitions and Accubonds are designed to fragment the tip to initiate the wound channel and retain roughly 65% of their weight. In my experience from recovered bullets these estimates hold up. I will see if I can find actual BC's for you.

Edit: looks like the accubonds BC advantage is in the heavier bullets. 130's are fairly comparable. .418 for the Partition vs .435 on the Accubond
« Last Edit: July 03, 2013, 07:17:35 PM by Feanix »

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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2013, 07:23:47 PM »
I will look at the partitions weight retention and BC numbers.  If anyone has those numbers that would be great. 

If he kept the 243,  what bullet and weight should I be looking at?
The BC of these bullets is irrelevant when considering their use in what likely will be a shot of less than 300 yards, as suggested for youth hunters. They might be informative to look at but should have no bearing on your decision IMO. :twocents:

 I've got more than a couple trophies with partitions in my time, all with single shots. They are as fine a hunting bullet as any other on the market and I'm quite sure there are several other members on here that have similar first hand experience. ;)
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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2013, 07:48:39 PM »
.243 i would look at the 90 gr Accubond or 100gr Partition. I dont have much experience with the .243, however. I know my friend's son shoots 70gr barnes TTSX's, but hasn't had a shot on big game yet.

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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2013, 07:53:55 PM »
I will look at the partitions weight retention and BC numbers.  If anyone has those numbers that would be great. 

If he kept the 243,  what bullet and weight should I be looking at?
1OOgr is a good bullet but I had my boys shoot a couple deer with the 87 gr SST and the worked well ...as a matter a fact a couple dropped right where they stood ...one thing to remember about faster calipers like a 243 when loading lighter bullets is the hotter you load them the more they will explode ...I never shoot hot loads and I never try making bullets to fly faster than what is recommended ...If you lighten up the load on a 87 gr SST it will hold together better than say max loads ...There are many factors that come into play and the more you shoot and load ammo the more you learn ...Just  :twocents: I am trying my best to tone my opinions down some  :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2013, 06:47:46 AM »
Do you and your nephew a favor and put a brake on it.  Not only will it significantly reduce the recoil but you both will end up shooting it better.  Any decent "smith" can put a muzzle brake on it for you and for the small amount it will cost, it will pay you dividends in shooting pleasure.  Even though your 270 probably doesn't seem to have much recoil now, you will be amazed at what a *censored* cat a small baffle or radial style brake will turn it into.  Even the biggest tough guys I know that would never allow themselves to have a braked rifle are always happier AFTER they finally tried one with a brake on it.

Put a brake on it, you'll be glad you did!!!

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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2013, 06:53:23 AM »
I stepped up to a 270 after learning how to shoot on a Mini 14. I was a pretty scrawny kid and weighed about 100lbs like your nephew. The 270 wasn't a problem really. I think I scoped myself on the first shot, but after that I knew what it was going to recoil like and was able to shoot fine.
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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2013, 07:09:23 AM »
I shoot the 140sst super performance . I have also had good results from the 140tbc fed premiums .

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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2013, 07:17:43 AM »
Do you and your nephew a favor and put a brake on it.  Not only will it significantly reduce the recoil but you both will end up shooting it better.  Any decent "smith" can put a muzzle brake on it for you and for the small amount it will cost, it will pay you dividends in shooting pleasure.  Even though your 270 probably doesn't seem to have much recoil now, you will be amazed at what a *censored* cat a small baffle or radial style brake will turn it into.  Even the biggest tough guys I know that would never allow themselves to have a braked rifle are always happier AFTER they finally tried one with a brake on it.

Put a brake on it, you'll be glad you did!!!

You know...  I think I might have to call around to get one on that rifle.  Any ideas the cost? 
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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2013, 06:35:22 PM »
Depending on who does it and what brake you have them put on, you would be around $200 give or take a few bucks either way.  Like I said before, a 270 isn't all that bad on recoil but WITH a brake they're like shooting a pop gun and you stand a much higher chance of spotting your shots on impact.  One of the most popular muzzle brakes out there is the Mini Muscle 3 port muzzle brake but there are MANY others too. 

I like baffle style brakes like the mini muscle that has slots on the side better than the radial type brakes that has holes all the way around.  Both work well but the radial style blows dirt and debris back in your face when shot from a prone position. 

You'll be amazed at how little felt recoil your 270 will have after you have a brake installed and don't be surprised if you start wanting them on all your rifles.

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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2013, 07:44:46 PM »
 :) I'd think most any 270 bullet would work on a youth, what did he do to ya?
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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2013, 08:35:00 PM »
If your a handloader you could tailor a load for the 270 even with the 150gr bullet. So, how does the rifle fit him? 100# kid can't be to big.
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Re: 270 bullets for a youth
« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2013, 08:41:36 AM »

My old man hunted elk for 45 years, He tagged over 20 bulls and I think 5 cows with his 270.  He always used hornady rounds and started out with the 150 gr until hornady came out with the 140 gr btsp . He would tell you that is the best slug for a 270 elk round.  He loaded with imr 4831, and I think some wear around 54-55 grains of powder.  :twocents:
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