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4-point rule 117/121
« on: July 15, 2013, 06:02:15 AM »
I know we had quite the spirited discussion over this when this rule first came about in GMU 117 and 121. This will be the 3rd year for this rule in these units. What do you guys think now? I still say kids and seniors should be able to shoot any buck. The first year my buddy tried to get his daughter on a 4 point and by the time doe season opened she was burned out and quit hunting. Last year she didn’t hunt until the doe season opened and she got a nice big doe. It’s all about getting the youth out hunting.

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2013, 06:17:34 AM »
But all they have to do is hunt an adjoing unit if they dont like the 4pt min..pretty close to hunt another unit. It has helped alot! see way more bucks already!

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2013, 06:52:30 AM »
i am with ya PA BEN, youth and seniors should get to shoot any deer..... i like the 4 pt restriction rule, i know a couple units here on the wetside that went to 2pt min for blacktail and it helped quite a bit, matter a fact i think there should be a 3pt restriction put on in a few of the units over here and a 2pt min on all other units on the wetside, except for the youth and disabled and seniors..... the sad thing is that i do see, when we lost hound huntn and trappn it has made things alot worse for the deer population especially, i wish the game department would do something about that, its pretty sad to do all this conservation just to let the predators get all out of control  :twocents:
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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2013, 07:07:59 AM »
Love it.  I feel like my honey hole is back!!   :tup:  and less people too.
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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2013, 07:22:20 AM »
Considering most whitetails unless they still have spots or milk on their lips are 4 points or better(WDFW rules), I was surprised what the big deal was.   Glad they put it into effect.    The three point or better rules for muledeer saved the Methow herd.

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2013, 07:26:30 AM »
Love it.  I feel like my honey hole is back!!   :tup:  and less people too.

 :yeah: !!!!

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 07:44:37 AM »
Many 18 month old bucks are packin 4pts...........And are still running with the does when the season opens.   There should be NO entitlements for any user groups other than by permit.

When I was a kid, all hunters went by the same set of rules........as it should be always.  Take the emphasis off killing......teach them to enjoy hunting and being with other hunters.

There is significant improvements in our herd....Id hate to see it go backwards again at the expense of kids and seniors killing deer that should be passed, and that is to include me and my family , even the grand kids. :twocents:

 


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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2013, 07:55:23 AM »
The population has "rebounded".  It's time to lift it next year. 

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2013, 08:07:01 AM »
The population has "rebounded".  It's time to lift it next year.

Great observation from Bellevue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bash:

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2013, 08:13:26 AM »
The population has "rebounded".  It's time to lift it next year.

Great observation from Bellevue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bash:

Really, you know where he scouts, hunts, camps, hikes, researches, takes photographs and studies deer?

I dont agree with his comment about lifting the rule, but Im surely not going to type some smart remark because he happens to live or post a location in his profile a good ways away from the topic area, not knowing where he spends his time out of Bellevue.
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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2013, 11:44:23 AM »
The population has "rebounded".  It's time to lift it next year.

Cannot disagree more.  Not sure why taking away the fix would be a good thing.
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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2013, 11:55:10 AM »
We hunt the 4 point of better unit and have for a long time. I haven't noticed a considerable increase in deer numbers but we have been seeing more bucks the last few years. I am fine with keeping it for all hunters because there are plenty of other any buck units. Where we hunt, we are on the edge of two units where one side of the road is any buck and one side is 4 point so if we are really struggling to find a shooter buck we can hunt across the road and try to fill the freezer.
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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2013, 11:59:26 AM »
But all they have to do is hunt an adjoing unit if they dont like the 4pt min..pretty close to hunt another unit. It has helped alot! see way more bucks already!

Yeah GMU 101, 105, 108, 111 etc. are all pretty close nearby.

The population has "rebounded".  It's time to lift it next year.

Yeah that's a good point about whiteys with 4 points.  18 month old bucks seem to be 4 pt at least 30-40% of the time in "my" areas.

Cannot disagree more.  Not sure why taking away the fix would be a good thing.

 :yeah:  I think most people don't understand how many 4 pt bucks there are running around now anyway.  I see many more bucks in 117 and 121.  It might have been rough for a season or so but why would anyone want to get rid of it?  It would be like removing the 3 pt minimum for mule deer.  See below.


Considering most whitetails unless they still have spots or milk on their lips are 4 points or better(WDFW rules), I was surprised what the big deal was.   Glad they put it into effect.    The three point or better rules for muledeer saved the Methow herd.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2013, 12:06:47 PM »
Im all for the 4pt or better rule! Wish they would start doing this to some of the blacktail units!
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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2013, 12:24:37 PM »
I'd go statewide all species(deer).......but thats just me.   :chuckle:

 


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