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Velvet euro?
« on: July 23, 2013, 11:59:20 PM »
How do you euro mount a deer or elk in velvet with out wrecking the velvet? I have been thinking about this the last couple days and it seems it would be tough to do :dunno:
You sure you know how to skin griz pilgram

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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2013, 10:01:39 PM »
Anybody?
You sure you know how to skin griz pilgram

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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2013, 10:16:49 PM »
There is a few guys that I know have them. I like them when they are solid once they start to peel even a little I don't care for them. I have seen 5 in the last week I would hang a early archery tag on and hope they still have the fuzz :chuckle:
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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2013, 08:34:00 AM »
The taxi I use does this by cutting the antlers ft at the pedicle then setting the skull In the beetles and king everything like normal. At Tue same time he tans the velvet antlers. When both are done he pins and reattaches the antlers.

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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2013, 08:50:36 AM »
Two ways to do this remove antlers, clean skull, freeze dry antlers, reattach or strip velvet, clean, and have them artificially re- velveted.  I myself like the artificial velvet look. This is a picture of the artificial velvet. Keep in mind that both processes are a lot of work and will cost a lot more to do professionally.

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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2013, 12:34:49 PM »
Two ways to do this remove antlers, clean skull, freeze dry antlers, reattach or strip velvet, clean, and have them artificially re- velveted.  I myself like the artificial velvet look. This is a picture of the artificial velvet. Keep in mind that both processes are a lot of work and will cost a lot more to do professionally.

 :yeah: Artificial is the best way to go. Lifetime guarantee. Here is one from last year.
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Velvet euro?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2013, 12:51:22 PM »
I always think the artificial velvet looks too fake. I've never had to deal with it and most likely won't with the seasons we have but I would have them freeze dried if I killed a buck worthy of saving the velvet on.

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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2013, 03:06:02 PM »
Sirmissalot your right if you are holding them in your hands they do look artificial but when they are high up on the wall I would bet my pay check that 9 out of 10 guys could not tell you the difference between fake and real.

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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2013, 03:35:06 PM »
Tagging.  8)

I'd like to see some pictures of some natural velvet mounts, please.


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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2013, 04:27:20 PM »
Here is an early archery YTC buck. I treated the antlers with velvet tan because they were still soft horn. So I was able to treat them inside and out.
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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2013, 04:38:18 PM »
Here is another early archery buck. He was already hard horned and I was only able to treat the outside velvet. The customer didn't want the extra expense of artificial velvet.
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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2013, 05:00:43 PM »
Alright guys, you're assuming too much intelligence and common sense on the part of your bean counter. What is this 'velvet tan'? Where do you get it, and how do you use it?

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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2013, 05:20:51 PM »
"Velvet Tan" is a product that I get from Research Mannikins. It is a liquid that can be injected into the tips of "soft horned velvet bucks" and then painted or sprayed onto the exterior of the antler. It needs to be done asap after taking the animal.
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Velvet euro?
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2013, 05:33:47 PM »
Sirmissalot your right if you are holding them in your hands they do look artificial but when they are high up on the wall I would bet my pay check that 9 out of 10 guys could not tell you the difference between fake and real.

Lets see some fake vs real velvet horns then. I'm not saying it doesn't look good, but they just look too perfect, the entire antler is uniform in color and consistency due to the process. Maybe your average joe wouldn't know the difference but in my experience most knowledgable guys would. I've yet to see fake velvet look natural. Just a matter of opinion obviously. Guess it depends on how high on the wall you're talking though :chuckle:

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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 07:08:07 AM »
You get the color variation from the drying of the velvet which is actually skin.  You look at a deer on the hoof ( alive ) and compare it to a artificially revelveted buck an they will look a lot more similar that a preserved set of velvet antlers. As a taxidermist you are looking to recreate a live animal and that is what the artificial velvet recreates.   Not Dried up scabby velvet antlers.  Live deer velvet antlers are very uniform, and have very little color variation until the blood under the velvet is cut off, and begins its process of drying and shedding. 

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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2013, 08:57:14 AM »
You get the color variation from the drying of the velvet which is actually skin.  You look at a deer on the hoof ( alive ) and compare it to a artificially revelveted buck an they will look a lot more similar that a preserved set of velvet antlers. As a taxidermist you are looking to recreate a live animal and that is what the artificial velvet recreates.   Not Dried up scabby velvet antlers.  Live deer velvet antlers are very uniform, and have very little color variation until the blood under the velvet is cut off, and begins its process of drying and shedding. 

Very well put Dug!
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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2013, 09:20:22 AM »
I agree with most of that, you have some good points. I guess i'm just thinking of most deer that are killed with our seasons, in which the velvet is very close to shedding. To each their own!


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Re: Velvet euro?
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2013, 11:44:20 PM »
I always think the artificial velvet looks too fake. I've never had to deal with it and most likely won't with the seasons we have but I would have them freeze dried if I killed a buck worthy of saving the velvet on.
:yeah: never would I have artificial, unless someone could show me pics of it done where it actually looks natural

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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2013, 11:47:22 PM »
I agree with most of that, you have some good points. I guess i'm just thinking of most deer that are killed with our seasons, in which the velvet is very close to shedding. To each their own!

 :yeah:..we are not hunting deer like that whitetail pictured above, where its still growing for another month, that mule deer above doesnt look right, color

 


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