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Posted for BLUESBULLS I sent him the same article:"For several years we lacked spring/summer moisture which produces late summer/early fall berries. Well get this, the last 2 years we’ve had exceptional, record high precipitation in the late spring/early summer and had bumper crops of berries. Remember 3 years ago when you guys had a lot of bear issues in Idaho? Well that was in part due to the lack of berries. No problems last year, right? Well there you have it, just plain old good conditions for berries the last 2 years. They sure can come up with a lot of ******* to save some wolves. They might want to read up a little bit and find that “elks” are “grazers”, not “browsers” and therefore berry bushes would not be a main part of the “elks” diet. If I’m wrong then I will be hunting elk on the _____ road only because it’s loaded with berries right now and the “elks” are sure to come feed. Weird though, I was there Saturday and all of the elks were elsewhere eating grasses???"I told him that he was smart and should be a wildlife biologist. Maybe not...he'd probably turn rotten with a little persuasion of the QUALITY ELK TAG kind
Posted for BLUESBULLS I sent him the same article:"For several years we lacked spring/summer moisture which produces late summer/early fall berries. Well get this, the last 2 years we’ve had exceptional, record high precipitation in the late spring/early summer and had bumper crops of berries. Remember 3 years ago when you guys had a lot of bear issues in Idaho? Well that was in part due to the lack of berries. No problems last year, right? Well there you have it, just plain old good conditions for berries the last 2 years. They sure can come up with a lot of ******* to save some wolves.
They might want to read up a little bit and find that “elks” are “grazers”, not “browsers” and therefore berry bushes would not be a main part of the “elks” diet.
I didn't write it but I trust the source.Aspen ask yourself this... have you ever seen elk poop made of berries??** **If you did then you're wrong, it was bear poop!!
I know they have tall fences around some of the berry farms to keep the elk out. Haven't heard of the elk eating the actual berries, but they do eat some bushes and trample a lot of bushes. I know they eat salal bushes, but haven't seen where they eat the actual berry. Interesting to know.
idk if this is true or not but i heard that yellowstone isnt bringn in squat for money because there isnt anything to hardly see there anymore, i dont have a clue because i have never been there... i love how they are ok with replacing herbavores with 2 of the most violent carnivores known to man
Quote from: Mr Mykiss on July 30, 2013, 02:44:17 PMI didn't write it but I trust the source.Aspen ask yourself this... have you ever seen elk poop made of berries??** **If you did then you're wrong, it was bear poop!! The article said the elk were eating the bushes, not the berries.
Quote from: JLS on July 30, 2013, 03:23:07 PMQuote from: Mr Mykiss on July 30, 2013, 02:44:17 PMI didn't write it but I trust the source.Aspen ask yourself this... have you ever seen elk poop made of berries??** **If you did then you're wrong, it was bear poop!! The article said the elk were eating the bushes, not the berries.Never let the facts get in the way of a funny statement.
sage brush, bitter brush, red stem, poplar, juniper, scrub alder, vine maple......the list of elk browse goes on and on....... huckle berry, service berry, snow berry.......on and on..........seedlings in reprod......yep, they eat grasses, but they also browse significantly to survive in the mountains........it aint the great plains animal it once was dorothy.......................
The article is right for the wrong reasons imogrizz eat the wolves' leftovers, scavange the partially eaten carcasses. Why their noses are so good, they can smell a wolf kill before it happens and travel miles to get there. They'll run em off the kill if they are big enough or the wolves fat enough. berries - pfft
Hug or no hug I don't think we're going to be able to do anything about it... no we're not in Kansas anymore Dorothy...we're in Idaho.
This is just one more BS fake story for the brain-washed biologist and city people to read. Remember the lies that that David Mech told to further the wolf agenda? Remember the lie of how the beaver had multiplied?? THEN COME TO FIND OUT THE AZZHOES HAD PLANT 16O some beaver. Wellcome to the USFWS propaganda machine. Not to worry, we have WAcoyote to straighten us all out. WDFW is true blue, they would never tell a lie! Wolves will not impact the game herds in WA. I suppose jackelope is going to delete this thread now? Oh wait this is now 2013 and it's harder to hide the truth.
Quote from: wolfbait on July 31, 2013, 09:30:36 PMThis is just one more BS fake story for the brain-washed biologist and city people to read. Remember the lies that that David Mech told to further the wolf agenda? Remember the lie of how the beaver had multiplied?? THEN COME TO FIND OUT THE AZZHOES HAD PLANT 16O some beaver. Wellcome to the USFWS propaganda machine. Not to worry, we have WAcoyote to straighten us all out. WDFW is true blue, they would never tell a lie! Wolves will not impact the game herds in WA. I suppose jackelope is going to delete this thread now? Oh wait this is now 2013 and it's harder to hide the truth.I'm confused. Could you please clearly state your position on this issue?
The article makes it sound like berries are the staple of the grizzly bear's diet making them out to be vegans or something. If you look further a grizzly will eat a variety of foods of which berries is only a minor part during only a portion of the year.
A New Vision For North Cascades -- Environmentalists' Concepts Would Transcend Boundaries http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19931103&slug=1729774Friedman says a reserve must be big enough to accommodate the ecosystem's most wide-ranging creatures, the grizzly and gray wolf."It doesn't matter whose land it is," he says. "The critters don't know."If people really want to live in greater harmony with the land and other species, Friedman says, it's got to start somewhere - and the North Cascades is a better candidate than most.
Quote from: snowpack on July 30, 2013, 03:02:10 PMI know they have tall fences around some of the berry farms to keep the elk out. Haven't heard of the elk eating the actual berries, but they do eat some bushes and trample a lot of bushes. I know they eat salal bushes, but haven't seen where they eat the actual berry. Interesting to know. Eating the bushes does the damage. Eating berries is not the problem.
Sounds like it is time for a Grizzly bear season AND a wolf season.