Quick question about muley/white tail cross

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[alwinearcher]

   I currently have the largest whitetail shed in the state and I have always believed it was a cross. It looks more like a mule deer antler on the base with a small eye guard for its size, but has points like a whitetail down the main beam and lays like a whitetail antler would lay. I was at the Big Horn show and spoke to the NW BIG GAME guys about the record book for Washington when it was first being published and they wanted to look at all my sheds so we set up a time to score them all with a buddy of mines sheds from the Cheney area. Anyway they couldn't believe the size of the antler I had and one of them told me to take it to a guy in Spokane who could show it to Rocky Spencer and a deer expert. Rocky and this guy looked at the antler and said from what he could gather it was indeed a cross and wanted to know where I got it and if it resembled a whitetail in body features or just a weird mule deer. I told them I had seen the deer in the velvet many times and it was indeed a whitetail. Then I told him the area and he stated that several crosses had been seen there and netted and that USUALLY they don't survive the first year or two because they have issues with escaping predators. He said mule deer bound alot and whitetail like to sprint and the little guys would mix sprinting and bounding and get picked off so... in the end they don't seem to live very long because of this. That was his theory on it anyway. So they decided it was a whitetail and entered it that way in the book. Score was 103 and some change if I remember right...

Lets see a picture!
Although I will say it may be the biggest whitetail shed in the state on record, there are some sleepers out there over 103"

[huntnnw]

Whoa! You cant come on here and claim u have the biggest shed in the state and not show a picture!

If its a non typ shed I know for sure its not the biggest. My book has bigger sheds entered...My guess is it must be a typical.

Alot of guys see forked whitetail tines and automatically assume its got mule deer in it. If you have never hunted mountain whiteys then you would know most mature 5.5 and older start growing trash and splt tines.

[boneaddict]

Its non typical according to the record books.  Typical is like 81 or so.

[Smossy]

Pics or it doesn't exist.

[huntnnw]

Goff family has several giants in record book here

[boneaddict]

1. 103 3/8 Stevens Co. Levi D.E. Raczykowski 2000   
 
  2. 102 6/8 Okanogan Co. Louis Zabreznik 1960   
  3. 102 4/8 Spokane Co. Levi Dennis 1999   
  4. 101 1/8 Chelan Co. Mike Damery 1996   
  5. 93 6/8 Chelan Co. Mike Damery 1996   
  6. 93 2/8 Ferry Co. Henry and Kris Goff 2000   
  7. 90 7/8 Ferry Co. Henry and Kris Goff 1998   
  8. 90 1/8 Ferry Co. Henry and Kris Goff 1999   
  9. 89 5/8 Stevens Co. Larry J. Walker 1996   
10. 88 1/8 Ferry Co. Henry and Kris Goff 1999
 

[alwinearcher]

1. 103 3/8 Stevens Co. Levi D.E. Raczykowski 2000   
 
  2. 102 6/8 Okanogan Co. Louis Zabreznik 1960   
  3. 102 4/8 Spokane Co. Levi Dennis 1999   
  4. 101 1/8 Chelan Co. Mike Damery 1996   
  5. 93 6/8 Chelan Co. Mike Damery 1996   
  6. 93 2/8 Ferry Co. Henry and Kris Goff 2000   
  7. 90 7/8 Ferry Co. Henry and Kris Goff 1998   
  8. 90 1/8 Ferry Co. Henry and Kris Goff 1999   
  9. 89 5/8 Stevens Co. Larry J. Walker 1996   
10. 88 1/8 Ferry Co. Henry and Kris Goff 1999

Bunch of sandbaggers dont enter the big ones into the books I guess

I know ive held atleast one that went 112" and change... Sure as heck not in my collection though lol

[huntnnw]

 

[boneaddict]

Yeah, I have the third in the world Muley typical from Washington state and I never entered it.   Its in the NASHC, but by the time I entered all of my sheds in the state book, I could finance a shed hunting trip to Alaska.  

I've seen and held a set from the Rice area that would beat Milo Hansens buck as well, so yes, a lot of them don't get entered.

[alwinearcher]

Yeah, I have the third in the world Muley typical from Washington state and I never entered it.   Its in the NASHC, but by the time I entered all of my sheds in the state book, I could finance a shed hunting trip to Alaska.  

I've seen and held a set from the Rice area that would beat Milo Hansens buck as well, so yes, a lot of them don't get entered.

I was just looking through all the top ten categories for WA and I said to myself, I could get in a handful of these... Then I realized it costs money and said forget that! lol
Ive heard about that Rice set.. Man Id like to seem them some day!

[huntnnw]

NO KIDDING! Id love to see those

[buckcanyonlodge]

This buck was running with 3 mule deer does during the rut. The tail was the weirdest whitetail tail I have ever seen. Only about 3 inches long but looked like a whitetail.

[huntnnw]

One my dad took years ago in 127..almost every tine was forked....hanging gutted it was 214 lbs

[LDennis24]

  Sorry guys I have been working but I will post a few pics as soon as I can! Like I said a long time ago on another thread. The book was a waste of time for me, the number three one in my name doesnt exist... the guy who entered them must have wanted to sell a book and made it up but I do have the one side and will post pics as soon as possible. I know of a few others listed in the book that score in the 90's that are NOT whitetails and are a set of Mule deer sheds that were entered into the whitetail section by one of the scorers. I took all my sheds to my uncles buddies house that day and don't recall paying for the entry so he must have done that for me...  Pics coming soon!