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Offline Justin7mm

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Shooting cows with calfs
« on: August 14, 2013, 06:23:38 PM »
I am hunting an area for archery where cows are legal.  I would rather not shoot a cow with a calf, but i was curious about what other people think.  Does anyone actually know how much calf mortality goes up if it loses its  mother in late summer early fall?

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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2013, 06:27:00 PM »
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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2013, 06:29:58 PM »
Depends on where you're talkin..........calf recruitment is poor at best here in n.e. wa, not many make it the first month.....me...dry cows only.........

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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2013, 06:30:19 PM »
Pretty sure if its part of a herd they will take care of the calf/calves. But don't trust me talk to someone who knows.

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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2013, 06:34:50 PM »
Depends on where you're talkin..........calf recruitment is poor at best here in n.e. wa, not many make it the first month.....me...dry cows only.........

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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2013, 06:42:03 PM »
Calves are grazing and actively fending for themselves 1 month after birth and fully weaned by Oct. Elk are herd animals and the calf will rejoin with them. I wouldnt worry about it. However it does make you feel like a total @#$%&*-+ to be gutting momma out whilst baby is nuzzling her face.   :(

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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2013, 06:55:48 PM »
If you can keep from doing it I would.  I personally wouldn't enjoy cleaning up a cow while her little one looks back for mama. :bdid:

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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2013, 07:10:06 PM »
Shooting any big game animal with younguns on their sides is similar to fishing with monofiliment net in the river,Same thing as pooping where you eat. Go for it on  a barren old hag that takes the feed off of producing animals.

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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2013, 07:17:41 PM »
I'd try not too, but if you're hunting herds, it'd be pretty difficult to determine if a cow had a calf or not...in the heat of the moment.  From my perspective, if you're hunting cows, you're either killing a cow with a calf, a cow that is pregnant with a calf, or a cow that will have multiple calves throughout it's life.  It sucks to leave a calf stranded with no mommy, but no other predators take that into consideration...in fact most of them would just assume kill the calf as well. 
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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2013, 07:27:30 PM »
Calves are grazing and actively fending for themselves 1 month after birth and fully weaned by Oct. Elk are herd animals and the calf will rejoin with them. I wouldnt worry about it. However it does make you feel like a total @#$%&*-+ to be gutting momma out whilst baby is nuzzling her face.   :(

What you're saying may be generally true, but I have seen calves nursing in Late November/December.
In September there are plenty of cow/calf pairs not attached to a herd yet. I think if you take the mama in that situation, survival chances for the calf are slim to none.
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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2013, 07:27:41 PM »
A lone cow with a young calf?... probably not.  Part of a herd?... probably.  From what I looked up the calves are weaned after a couple months and are grazing with the herd. 


Edit: I have seen some pretty young spotted calves early season but not often.

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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2013, 07:38:40 PM »
A buddy shot a calf many years ago.  I had the opportunity to eat one of the steaks.  It was fantastic... 
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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2013, 07:41:50 PM »
A buddy shot a calf many years ago.  I had the opportunity to eat one of the steaks.  It was fantastic...


Oh shooting the calf?   :tup:  I hunt with my dad...we got two tags.   :chuckle:

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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2013, 07:44:15 PM »
A buddy shot a calf many years ago.  I had the opportunity to eat one of the steaks.  It was fantastic...

So...if you're worried about leaving a calf stranded, shoot the calf and let momma go.  Problem solved.   :chuckle:
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Re: Shooting cows with calfs
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2013, 08:49:14 PM »
the thing is no matter what your standards are 90% of the guys will shoot the first cow they see .

 


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