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Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« on: August 16, 2013, 10:11:04 PM »
I'm zeroing in on a backpack that has a scabbard and is designed for hauling meat but...I'm curious for those who pack out bear if you spend the $$$ on the latest techno pack or have a system for packing out bear and don't need to invest the money cause it just works. Thoughts?

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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2013, 10:20:24 PM »
I got my backpack at a yard sale for $15. It has an aluminum frame, and that is what was important for me :tup:
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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2013, 10:25:54 PM »
Sounds like you are looking for a eberlestock j pack. They are great packs and worth the money. Imo

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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2013, 10:43:10 PM »
Depends how far you are packing.  I went with a kifaru but mostly long packs for me..... nothing worse than a looong pack with a pack that doesn't carry a load well.  90+ Ibs of bear 3000 above the truck with a badlands 2200 caused me to spend some coin and get a new pack. I tried on and loaded an Eberlestock good pack for the money yes, but load is way off your back causing you to lean over to compensate also load lifters didn't work real well leaving it on my shoulders. :twocents:

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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2013, 11:10:59 PM »
Depends how far you are packing.  I went with a kifaru but mostly long packs for me..... nothing worse than a looong pack with a pack that doesn't carry a load well.  90+ Ibs of bear 3000 above the truck with a badlands 2200 caused me to spend some coin and get a new pack. I tried on and loaded an Eberlestock good pack for the money yes, but load is way off your back causing you to lean over to compensate also load lifters didn't work real well leaving it on my shoulders. :twocents:

That was always my impression of the Eberlestock packs, granted without ever packing with one. I know a lot of people like them but the scabbard seems more of a gimmick than an actual useful item. Hand carrying or strapping my rifle to the side of my pack seems to work just fine.

I have always just used a quality large pack (~7000ci) to get my meat out along with camp. I don't think there is a need for a specialized "meat packing" pack. If I were pulling out moose or elk quarters that would be different.

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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2013, 11:32:31 PM »
Depends how far you are packing.  I went with a kifaru but mostly long packs for me..... nothing worse than a looong pack with a pack that doesn't carry a load well.  90+ Ibs of bear 3000 above the truck with a badlands 2200 caused me to spend some coin and get a new pack. I tried on and loaded an Eberlestock good pack for the money yes, but load is way off your back causing you to lean over to compensate also load lifters didn't work real well leaving it on my shoulders. :twocents:

That was always my impression of the Eberlestock packs, granted without ever packing with one. I know a lot of people like them but the scabbard seems more of a gimmick than an actual useful item. Hand carrying or strapping my rifle to the side of my pack seems to work just fine.

I have always just used a quality large pack (~7000ci) to get my meat out along with camp. I don't think there is a need for a specialized "meat packing" pack. If I were pulling out moose or elk quarters that would be different.

This was the reason that I sold both of my Eberlestock packs.  With the scabbard it felt like no matter how I packed my gear the load was unbalanced off to one side and pushed off my back with or without a rifle in it.  I wouldnt think I could be but who knows, maybe I was doing it wrong!

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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2013, 12:00:42 AM »
Sounds like you are looking for a eberlestock j pack. They are great packs and worth the money. Imo
Yeah...have my eye on the J34 mainly for hiking in and hauling out. I may do an overnight trip here and there but mostly hiking in one day.

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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2013, 12:02:30 AM »
I got my backpack at a yard sale for $15. It has an aluminum frame, and that is what was important for me :tup:
This has my attention...how much have you hauled out on one of these?

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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2013, 02:01:01 AM »
I love my wilderness pack specialties pack and frame.  :twocents:... I would suggest these packs to anyone...
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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2013, 04:11:09 AM »
I've spent a lot of time with the Eberlestock J107.  Never experienced the same thing the guys above have.  I do have a problem with the belt/buckle system slipping, but that was an easy fix with some Velcro.  I rarely ever use the scabbard as I do not like my barrel pointed down.  Saw a guy sit down on a lightweight barrel and ruin his gun on a once in a lifetime goat hunt. Since then it scares me.  But I do use the pocket for many other things like my tripod.  When carrying a heavy load I empty it out and compress it flat.  Best non freighter internal frame style pack I've used to pack out meat.  Maybe it just fits my body better than it fits others.  I'm not what anyone would confuse with a human mountain goat ;)  Most northern guides actually confuse me more with a bubba hunter until they get to know me >:(  If I were to do it again I would probably opt out of the scabbard and go for the JP9 Blue Widow.  But the be clear I have spent no time with it at this point.

I do not believe I have found the perfect pack yet.  I've given away about a dozen of them over the past eight years.  Always returning to the J107.  But it is far from perfect too.  Most of the northern guys I know that are packing large meat loads up to 30 times a season and many more loads of 80#+ of gear will not use packs made for hunting.  That includes Kuiu and Kifaru!  The Kuiu didn't surprise me but the Kifaru did.  But the one thing every single one of the northern guides I know agree with...Kifaru's Gun Bearer is the only gun system they will use!
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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2013, 10:32:36 AM »
It is hard to find a pack that does it all, I have not found one yet.  I spent a number of years hunting and guiding for mountain goats in SE Alaska and typically steered toward expedition size internals because other than external frame packs they were the only packs designed for the size loads I was carrying. And it was typically very brushy, narrow, or steep trails that do not lend themselves to external frame packs. We would pack in for 5-7 days and have to be prepared for very inclement weather. Going in the packs were full and coming out they were usually more so.

Now I am hunting where the trails are wide and relatively easy so am coming up with a new setup to use.  I am planning to utilize a hauler frame for heavy loads but have a mid-sized (4500ci) pack to carry camp in and then use it for a day/spike camp pack. It should hopefully be the best of both worlds, large carrying capacity but not unnecessarily big for running out on day hikes. We will see. Plus the whole system should be under 7lbs. There are a lot of packs that are straying into the 10lb+ range that are just too big for a day pack, but then you get the light "hunting" packs and they will not stand up to a load.

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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2013, 01:57:08 PM »
I've spent a lot of time with the Eberlestock J107.  Never experienced the same thing the guys above have.  I do have a problem with the belt/buckle system slipping, but that was an easy fix with some Velcro.  I rarely ever use the scabbard as I do not like my barrel pointed down.  Saw a guy sit down on a lightweight barrel and ruin his gun on a once in a lifetime goat hunt. Since then it scares me.  But I do use the pocket for many other things like my tripod.  When carrying a heavy load I empty it out and compress it flat.  Best non freighter internal frame style pack I've used to pack out meat.  Maybe it just fits my body better than it fits others.  I'm not what anyone would confuse with a human mountain goat ;)  Most northern guides actually confuse me more with a bubba hunter until they get to know me >:(  If I were to do it again I would probably opt out of the scabbard and go for the JP9 Blue Widow.  But the be clear I have spent no time with it at this point.

I do not believe I have found the perfect pack yet.  I've given away about a dozen of them over the past eight years.  Always returning to the J107.  But it is far from perfect too.  Most of the northern guys I know that are packing large meat loads up to 30 times a season and many more loads of 80#+ of gear will not use packs made for hunting.  That includes Kuiu and Kifaru!  The Kuiu didn't surprise me but the Kifaru did.  But the one thing every single one of the northern guides I know agree with...Kifaru's Gun Bearer is the only gun system they will use!

I have heard this a lot with eberlestock packs that they fit some well and others not so much. 

It is hard to find a pack that does it all, I have not found one yet.  I spent a number of years hunting and guiding for mountain goats in SE Alaska and typically steered toward expedition size internals because other than external frame packs they were the only packs designed for the size loads I was carrying. And it was typically very brushy, narrow, or steep trails that do not lend themselves to external frame packs. We would pack in for 5-7 days and have to be prepared for very inclement weather. Going in the packs were full and coming out they were usually more so.

Now I am hunting where the trails are wide and relatively easy so am coming up with a new setup to use.  I am planning to utilize a hauler frame for heavy loads but have a mid-sized (4500ci) pack to carry camp in and then use it for a day/spike camp pack. It should hopefully be the best of both worlds, large carrying capacity but not unnecessarily big for running out on day hikes. We will see. Plus the whole system should be under 7lbs. There are a lot of packs that are straying into the 10lb+ range that are just too big for a day pack, but then you get the light "hunting" packs and they will not stand up to a load.

starting weight is a big factor for day packs, was one of the main reason in choosing kifaru (5000 ci just over 4 Ibs) so far super comfortable as a day pack, haven't packed any animals with it yet I am anxious to test that out!

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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2013, 06:50:24 PM »
maybe I got some hips on me I dunno - the eberlestock does a good job putting the weight on my hips and not my shoulders.

I need to fix the buckle slip though


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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2013, 06:57:06 PM »
I need to fix the buckle slip though

A simple narrow strip of Velcro loop material sewn through the center of the strap did wonders for me.  I think their strap is just too thin and slick to hold well.  Blacks Creek and similar systems are the best though. IMO
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Re: Unique backpack question for boning out bear
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2013, 07:18:44 PM »
This'll be my first reall year of using the pack,  I got it later last year and didn't do much hunting.   Only got about 10 miles on it now.

 


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