Salmon Fishing Help

[762Armo]

Got one of my buddies to take me fishing with him, so I don't have to teach myself. lol.

I'm getting new gear for everything. We're gonna be River Fishing. From the bank.

Here's the list I was recommended to get:

Spinning Rod and Reel
Bobbers
Salmon Plugs
Dick Nites - different types and sizes
Salmon Roe - Deep Red color
Weights/Slinky Weights
Swivels
Octopus #2-#4 Bait Hooks
15lb Test Line

What suggestions would you guys give for the items listed?
What am I missing, and what don't I need?

Just getting started, so I don't want to spen a forture.. YET 

Thanks guys!!!

762Armo

[Kola16]

We need more info. What kind of salmon, and what river 

I would also add jigs to your list 

[Bullkllr]

 

Got one of my buddies to take me fishing with him, so I don't have to teach myself. lol.

I'm getting new gear for everything. We're gonna be River Fishing. From the bank.

Here's the list I was recommended to get:

Spinning Rod and Reel
Bobbers
Salmon Plugs
Dick Nites - different types and sizes
Salmon Roe - Deep Red color
Weights/Slinky Weights
Swivels
Octopus #2-#4 Bait Hooks
15lb Test Line

What suggestions would you guys give for the items listed?
What am I missing, and what don't I need?

Just getting started, so I don't want to spen a forture.. YET 

Thanks guys!!!

762Armo

OK- IMO the only serious answer here is hold on a second. If your buddy is serious about taking you fishing with him, he would hopefully be open to either letting you use some of his gear, or at least going to the store(s) with you to make sure you are properly equipped for the type of fishing you will be doing.

Seriously- many of the items on your list have so many variables that it is impossible to offer a suggestion without knowing more about what EXACTLY you're going to be doing- and your buddy is the one who can best help with that.

Some items- Dick Nites for example- are pretty specific. But even those come in 3 sizes and many finishes/colors. If I had to pic one it would be the #1 in 50/50 brass/chrome.
Most of the other items -"salmon plugs" for example - come in dozens of styles and literally hundreds of finishes- many of which have different applications; this makes it very difficult to provide a suggestion unless someone knows the river, the species, even the water conditions, time of day, depth of water etc.

Meeting up with your buddy pre-trip and making arrangements to get outfitted based on his advice is the best advice I can give you.

[Smossy]

Not deep red eggs! Blood red eggs. Perfect red.
If your mixing your own cures for eggs. Mix dark pink with orange and it comes out the best red.

[Bullkllr]

If the dude does not even have a rod to fish for salmon with, I highly doubt he's ready to experiment with complicated egg cures....buddy with experience should be providing the eggs...just sayin...

[Smossy]

I the dude does not even have a rod to fish for salmon with, I highly doubt he's ready to experiment with complicated egg cures....

Touche. Lol

[762Armo]

OK- IMO the only serious answer here is hold on a second. If your buddy is serious about taking you fishing with him, he would hopefully be open to either letting you use some of his gear, or at least going to the store(s) with you to make sure you are properly equipped for the type of fishing you will be doing.

Seriously- many of the items on your list have so many variables that it is impossible to offer a suggestion without knowing more about what EXACTLY you're going to be doing- and your buddy is the one who can best help with that.

Some items- Dick Nites for example- are pretty specific. But even those come in 3 sizes and many finishes/colors. If I had to pic one it would be the #1 in 50/50 brass/chrome.
Most of the other items -"salmon plugs" for example - come in dozens of styles and literally hundreds of finishes- many of which have different applications; this makes it very difficult to provide a suggestion unless someone knows the river, the species, even the water conditions, time of day, depth of water etc.

Meeting up with your buddy pre-trip and making arrangements to get outfitted based on his advice is the best advice I can give you.

True.
He will bring his own gear, and let me use it, but I also wanted to grab some things myself to play with so it's a bit more fair towards him.  Our schedules don't line up in the near future to go together to the store, but I still wanted to go get a couple thigns myself.

We're going to be on Skykomish River.

[762Armo]

If the dude does not even have a rod to fish for salmon with, I highly doubt he's ready to experiment with complicated egg cures....buddy with experience should be providing the eggs...just sayin...

LOL. True.
I'm a quick learner though.

[Cap.Silver]

762 Armo ,just come over to my house tonight - and I can tell you what I know and show you what you might need for gear ..... I'm in Renton/Newcastle exit 7 or 9 of I-405 not tto far from Coalcreek .....

[Bullkllr]

OK- IMO the only serious answer here is hold on a second. If your buddy is serious about taking you fishing with him, he would hopefully be open to either letting you use some of his gear, or at least going to the store(s) with you to make sure you are properly equipped for the type of fishing you will be doing.

Seriously- many of the items on your list have so many variables that it is impossible to offer a suggestion without knowing more about what EXACTLY you're going to be doing- and your buddy is the one who can best help with that.

Some items- Dick Nites for example- are pretty specific. But even those come in 3 sizes and many finishes/colors. If I had to pic one it would be the #1 in 50/50 brass/chrome.
Most of the other items -"salmon plugs" for example - come in dozens of styles and literally hundreds of finishes- many of which have different applications; this makes it very difficult to provide a suggestion unless someone knows the river, the species, even the water conditions, time of day, depth of water etc.

Meeting up with your buddy pre-trip and making arrangements to get outfitted based on his advice is the best advice I can give you.

True.
He will bring his own gear, and let me use it, but I also wanted to grab some things myself to play with so it's a bit more fair towards him.  Our schedules don't line up in the near future to go together to the store, but I still wanted to go get a couple thigns myself.

We're going to be on Skykomish River.

762 Armo ,just come over to my house tonight - and I can tell you what I know and show you what you might need for gear ..... I'm in Renton/Newcastle exit 7 or 9 of I-405 not tto far from Coalcreek .....

Cool offer Cap.Silver!
If you can't do that then I'd get to a reliable sporting goods store with you list- Outdoor Emporium comes to mind. They should be able to get you going- along with some of the suggestions here.

First of all, 15# line seems a bit stout on a spinning reel for humpies and silvers on the Skykomish- it's harder to cast, requires more lead, retains more memory on the spool. I'd go with quality, limp 10#-12# at the most. Lighter for leaders.

And I can't imagine fishing for salmon in a river without a few Vibrax spinners -size 2-3 if it's low- 3-4 if its higher-.

Next suggestion, please...

[762Armo]

762 Armo ,just come over to my house tonight - and I can tell you what I know and show you what you might need for gear ..... I'm in Renton/Newcastle exit 7 or 9 of I-405 not tto far from Coalcreek .....

Great offer. PM you.

[sumbeech66]

if you're just trying to catch a few pink salmon, a spinning rod and any pink lures.

 Caught and released 3  today.  One plunking with sand shrimp,  one on a humpy special and one on a #2 pink dick night.

 The neighbor kid I have been taking fishing rode his bike to the river a week ago and caught one on a night crawler with a little piece of pink yarn.

 Go out and have a good time!  catching or not!   

[Button Nubbs]

Skykomish system coho are not the best biters so don't get discouraged if you aren't having much success. A pink hoochie on a 1/4oz jig head will beat up on humpies though. Don't over look 1/4oz kastmasters in green and blue, reeled slow so they wobble back and fourth not spin.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Skykomish system coho are not the best biters so don't get discouraged if you aren't having much success. A pink hoochie on a 1/4oz jig head will beat up on humpies though. Don't over look 1/4oz kastmasters in green and blue, reeled slow so they wobble back and fourth not spin.

Agree....1/4 oz.jig head and a hoochie skirt is all you need to catch humpies ..maybe a little shrimp oil does not hurt and go with 10# test line ....

[762Armo]

762 Armo ,just come over to my house tonight - and I can tell you what I know and show you what you might need for gear ..... I'm in Renton/Newcastle exit 7 or 9 of I-405 not tto far from Coalcreek .....

Went over to Cap Silvers last night to leave with some advice and knowledge, ended up leaving with a whole bunch of goodies, and some smoked fish!!

Thanks for all the advice!!

[Cap.Silver]

Nice to meet you ARMO and you're very welcome ....... hope you do good on the river . Thanks for the brew as well ...... Went this am to find Yogi ,but didn't see him . Anytime you need anything ,just text me or call or email or PM me.

[Crunchy]

Lets get real here.  Youtube search flossing river salmon.  Save your money. 

[BigGoonTuna]

Lets get real here.  Youtube search flossing river salmon.  Save your money.

[Button Nubbs]

Lets get real here.  Youtube search flossing river salmon.  Save your money.

are you one of the guys that claim salmon don't bite in fresh water?

[762Armo]

Just did a bit of shopping. Getting excited. :-)
Thank you everyone for your input.

[762Armo]

A little bit of success this weekend. 

[wildmanoutdoors]

A little bit of success this weekend. 

Nice! Bleed your fish after landing by ripping the gills. This will get the blood out of thoses eggs. Bloody eggs rot fast and dont taste as good to the fishies. 

[sumbeech66]

Fun stuff!  Keep at it!   

[762Armo]

A little bit of success this weekend. 

Nice! Bleed your fish after landing by ripping the gills. This will get the blood out of thoses eggs. Bloody eggs rot fast and dont taste as good to the fishies. 

Should I gut it right away as well, Or is it ok to just rip the gills out and let it sit there while I continue to fish?

And I just fried up those eggs and ate them up. Couple of my friends thought I was weird, but I like them. Now that I have the first out of the way, I'll save the next batch for bait.

[Moose-head]

I just pop the gills out and let them bleed out for a few minutes then throw them on top of the ice in the cooler. the quicker they cool the better, but you don't want them sitting in water.

[wildmanoutdoors]

A little bit of success this weekend. 

Nice! Bleed your fish after landing by ripping the gills. This will get the blood out of thoses eggs. Bloody eggs rot fast and dont taste as good to the fishies. 

Yuk! You ate em? Ewwwww....
You dont need to gut them right away, just bleed them. If your going to fillet them, its way easier with the guts in still!
Should I gut it right away as well, Or is it ok to just rip the gills out and let it sit there while I continue to fish?

And I just fried up those eggs and ate them up. Couple of my friends thought I was weird, but I like them. Now that I have the first out of the way, I'll save the next batch for bait.

[Smossy]

Wtf? Eating the roe? Lololol

[762Armo]

LOL. You guys are funny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caviar

[Smossy]

LOL. You guys are funny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caviar

Did you really eat them?

[snowpack]

Wtf? Eating the roe? Lololol

Delicacy overseas.  Japanese will pay big bucks for salmon roe.

[sumbeech66]

 

I've  been wondering the same thing. Just didnt ask cause I thought I missed something???

    

[sumbeech66]

Wtf? Eating the roe? Lololol

Delicacy overseas.  Japanese will pay big bucks for salmon roe.

Do they fry it overseas?

[snowpack]

Wtf? Eating the roe? Lololol

Delicacy overseas.  Japanese will pay big bucks for salmon roe.

Do they fry it overseas?

I've only had it raw with sushi.  Salmon and flying fish.

[sumbeech66]

Right on! I dont think its for me but I think it great if he did eat them. 

I wonder if overseas they are like " ohhhhhhhh its Humpy eggs".    ?? ?

[Becky]

Lol! no one ever eats sushi? The salmon roe rolls aren't MY thing, love most other types of sushi though.. but it's not that uncommon for people to eat the roe.

[7mmfan]

Roe is the main reason that commercials and Indians net chums and pinks. The meat goes off to be made into cat food, dog food, whatever, but the roe gets sent overseas for BIG BUCKS. Same as the herring fisheries in AK. They aren't after the fish, they're after the roe.

[762Armo]

Yes, I did really eat them Smossy,
and no they don't usually fry them Sumbeech66.
When I get some more I'll cure them, so I don't have to buy caviar anymore.
Def eat sushi with it, but usually I like to spread some butter on a piece of bread top it off with caviar and just munch on it.

[sumbeech66]

Sweet! All the more reason for you to get back out there and catch some more.   

[Alchase]

 

Do you guys eat Powerbait as well 

Silly Japanese, eating bait when you can eat fish 

[Bullkllr]

I've eaten and enjoyed other "alternative" salmon products including "white roe" and an Alaskan treat called "stink eggs".

Can't say I care for the eggs though! Salmon eggs are edible, but I prefer my fish less fishy-oily (and salty if cured). The oil explosion of fish-oil when the eggs burst I find rather gross. Stink eggs were actually better.

[Cap.Silver]

Armo I'm glad you were able to get some fish ..... now get that deer next weekend and the elk later .   You're good in my books even if you ate the eggs raw 

[762Armo]

Got a couple more this evening.

[lokidog]

   Looks like you bled them this time.  I toss mine in the cooler but I use 2 liter bottles frozen and then put water in the cooler as it seems to cool them faster and more completely than just with ice cubes.

As far as the roe, I'm not a big fan but a buddy of mine loved the caviar I made from a 30 lb king many years ago, she had 8 pounds of eggs.